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I hate to be the one to write this but I feel this article does not have a place on Wikipedia. I always had my doubts that a Hispanic did not become a Master Guns until 2004 and my suspicions were confirmed when I read the External link provided. He is not the first Hispanic to achieve this rank rather the first Hispanic to achieve this rank in his MOS. I am sorry but this does not satisfy the criteria for notability. While I am sure the Master Guns is a motivatd Marine there is nothing in his career that rates him having an article here. Does this mean that the first person of every ethnic group in every MOS rates an article?? No it does not. If they are Commandants and SgtMajs of the Marine Corps then yes but for most of the rest the answer is no. I throw this out for discussion because unless some good reason can be provided I am going to recommend the article for deletion.--Looper5920 11:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

• I must admit that as author of the article, I made a mistake. Looper pointed out that there must have been a Hispanic Master Guns before Segarra and after further investigation I discovered that he is right. Before Segarra there was a Mexican National, Master Gunnery Sergeant Guadalupe Denogean, who served and was wounded in Iraq. Segarra however, was the first Puerto Rican Master Gunnery Sergeant. not only in his MOS but, in the Corps. I believe that the recommendation of the deletion of the article should be reconsidered. Segarra is notable to millions of Puerto Ricans (he's important enough to be featured in the local papers) and to the Hispanic community in Wikipedia. What I'm trying to point out is that Segarra's accomplishments within the Corps may well serve as a motivational factor to our young ones in the military, especially those of Hispanic heritage who may have access to the "Pedia" and who may not know that the United States had Hispanic military heroes. When I was in the Corps, I didn't even know that there once was a Marine Lt. General Pedro Del Valle (Whose article I wrote), had I known, I may have continued my career in the military. I therefore, believe that being the first Puerto Rican Master Gun and being featured in the press makes Segarra notable. Tony the Marine 03:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)