Talk:Felix von Luckner

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A friend told me Felix was also awarded the Victoria cross, thus making him unique by having receieved medals from both sides for the same war.

Can anyone corroborate this?

I have seen him in a robe that looked like a Templars, A big Templar-like cross on the side. I can attest that he was incredibly strong. He cave me a bent coin, and it was years later that I understood the "magic" : He had bent it with his fingers when handing it to me in Malmö.

DanielDemaret 13:47, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Felix certainly doesn't appear on the list of Victoria Cross winners, and I can think of no reason why he should have been awarded one. It is, however, by no means unusual for someone to be decorated by both sides in a war, particularly if they were spies or double agents, Juan Pujol Garcia ("Garbo") for example, got both the Iron Cross and an MBE. -- Arwel 02:06, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Just another family fable then. We have too many of those :) DanielDemaret 11:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Apparently, there's some disagreement if he ever received the Blue Max as well.Opusaug 18:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, it looks fairly convincing that someone misinterpreted the other cross he wore at his neck for the Max. I'll just take that sentence out - we can always put it back if it turns out he did have the Max after all! -- Arwel (talk) 19:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The Robe with the cross mentioned above may have something to do with the fact that Felix von Luckner was a member of the freemasonry-lodge "Zur goldenen Kugel".83.71.26.153 07:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 The Life Savior 2 Statistics 3 Seeadler 4 Strenght 5 Early life

[edit] The Life Savior

I'm from Germany and I must say that I am terribly disappointed with this article. Here's why: During the Nazi regime, some Jews managed to live in hiding in Berlin. One day in 1943, Rosalinde Janson, a jewish woman whose parents were already deported to Auschwitz, lost her hiding, as the building was destroyed in a bomb raid. Luckner, who had visited the city, bypassed a scene where passports of people killed in the air raid where laid out on the street together with other stuff. He passed that pile and for a reason he could later not explain took one passport that was issued to a woman with the name of Frieda Schäfer. A short while later, Rosalinde Janson saw him, and in her desperation revealed her identity and her need for immediate help. Maybe she recognized him, as he was extremely popular in Germany. He has never been a Nazi, but it appears that he to a certain extend profited from the regime and its admiration of war heroes. Anyway, when approached by Rosalinde Janson, he immediately gave her the pass (and by this a new identity) and he even did something that probably was of even greater importance. He took her to Giesebrechtstraße 11, a side street of Berlin's Kurfürstendamm, where the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (SS main security service) had installed a secret Gestapo brothel with all rooms wired to listen to foreign diplomates talking when they started to brag after that had drunk and felt comfortable with a girl. The brothel of course was known to quite some people, however hardly anyone will have known that it was installed by the SS. Anyway, Luckner took her there as he obviously was on good terms with the landlady and arranged that she got a job in the kitchen. Most probably, her jewish identity had not been revealed then. Rosalinde Janson (or Frieda Schäfer now) survived the war and later went to New York. Here is where she met Luckner again in the fifties when he was guest in "That's your life" and was presented with her. For reasons unknown to me, the Yad Vashem comittee saw reasons not to declare Luckner one of the savior of jews. For Rosalinde Janson he surely was. Bodo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.159.246.12 (talk) 01:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

A statistic about all the ships Felix von Luckner actually sank wouldn't be bad...

--Malbi 13:16, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

• • Something like this can be found here: SMS_Seeadler_(Windjammer) User:DanielDemaret June 10th 2006

[edit] Seeadler

His ship was a beauty. I bought it as a kit when I was a kid, and built it. If one can not find a fair image picture for the ship, perhaps one could build the kit again, and take a snapshot of it :) DanielDemaret 22:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strenght

How came this man was so strong? -The Bold Guy- 12:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Early life

The section about his early life is poorly written, adding to my suspicion that there's probably nothing citable about him Alastairward 13:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)