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[edit] September 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Erosion, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Earlier vandalism, which went unwarned ACBest Dog and Bone 20:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please DO NOT Delete your warnings. ACBest Dog and Bone 18:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, geez, that wasn't even me who did that erosion thing. No need to be testy. Why no defense option for minor warnings? Something to think about, oh Uber-Wiki-Gods. F. Simon Grant 18:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It was you : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erosion&diff=156940517&oldid=156938313 ACBest Dog and Bone 20:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It may have been my screen name, dude, but it wasn't ME me. Screenname does not equal personhood. No need to insult my autonomous personhood. Am I one with my computer? Are all who use my screenname me? Don't be so presumptive with your "It was you" when the "it" and the "was" and the "you" are all suspect at best. Such rude treatment gives me a mind not to volunteer my time to give MUCH needed help to this poor excuse for an encyclopedia full of so many rude, presumptive people, thank you very much. F. Simon Grant 20:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning the Beat Generation page

About what you were saying on the Talk page for the Beat Generation: "I definitely think we should drop this nonsense since we keep saying the same thing over and over again" You have a point of course, but if I understand the wikipedia dynamic right, it could be a good thing to accumulate evidence that a certain user has a few screws loose. If we get into an edit war and have to ask for intervention or whatever, it might smooth the way quite a bit. -- Doom 18:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Just thought I'd mention, if you're sincerely looking for an excuse to talk about Bob Kaufman more, it can easily be done by playing the identity politics card, and adding a section about "black beats" or some such. -- Doom 02:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a reply to your last remark over in my page: User_talk:Doom might as well keep it in one place. -- Doom 20:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Year Membership

1919 Andre Breton, Louis Aragon, and Philippe Soupault started Littérature, began an association with Dadaism.

1922 Breton appropriated the term "Surrealism" as a group -- which now included Paul Éluard, Benjamin Péret, Man Ray, Jacques Baron, René Crevel, Robert Desnos, Georges Limbour, Roger Vitrac, and Joseph Delteil -- organized under Breton and pulled away from the influence of Tristan Tzara and the Dadaists. Marcel Duchamp frequently associated with this group but never officially joined.

1924 The year the first Surrealist Manifesto was published, members also included Antonin Artaud, Andre Masson, Raymond Queneau, Joan Miró, Max Morise, Pierre Naville, Mathias Lübeck, Jacques-André Boiffard and Georges Malkine. Giorgio de Chirico briefly associated with the group but never joined.

1925 Jacques Prévert, Yves Tanguy, Pierre Brasseur, Marcel Duhamel, and Michel Leiris joined the group.

1926 Rene Magritte, E. L. T. Mesens, and others started a Surrealist group in Belgium. Pablo Picasso associated with the Surrealists but never officially joined.

1927 Soupault, Artaud, and Vitrac were kicked out of the group.

1929 For various reasons, including the political direction Breton was taking Surrealism, several members -- Prévert, Baron, Desnos, Leiris, Limbour, Masson, Queneau, Morise, Boiffard -- broke with the group and organized under Georges Bataille. However, several new members joined: Salvador Dalí, Luis Buñuel, Alberto Giacometti, René Char, and Lee Miller. Breton also reconciled with Tzara. When the second Surrealist Manifesto was published, it was signed by Aragon, Ernst, Buñuel, Char, Crevel, Dali, Eluard, Ernst, Péret, Tanguy, Tzara, Maxime Alexandre, Joe Bousquet, Camille Goemans, Paul Nougé, Francis Ponge, Marco Ristitch, Georges Sadoul, André Thirion, and Albert Valentin. Federico García Lorca was friends with Dalí and Buñuel and is often called a Surrealist though he never officially joined the group; he broke contact with Dalí and Buñuel in 1929 when he interpretted their film, Un chien andalou (An Andalusian Dog), as an attack on him.

1932 Aragon and Sadoul left the Surrealists because of the conflict between Communism and Surrealism and their dedication the Communist party. Meret Oppenheim, Victor Brauner, Roger Caillois, Georges Hugnet, Jehan Mayoux, Henri Pastoureau, Guy Rosey, Claude Cahun and J. M. Monnerot joined the group.

1934 Óscar Domínguez, Dora Maar, Richard Oelze, Giséle Prassinos, Kurt Seligmann, and Brion Gysin joined the group.

1935 Wolfgang Paalen, Pierre Mabille, and Jacques-B. Brunius joined the group. Hans Bellmer's work was published in Minotaure. Brion Gysin was expelled.

1936 Joseph Cornell debuted Rose Hobart. Though Cornell was influenced by the Surrealists and friendly with many of them, he never officially joined the group. Dalí's negative criticism of Rose Hobart further inspired Cornell to distance himself.

1937 Kay Sage met Tanguy, and Leonora Carrington met Ernst.

1938 Breton had a falling out with Eluard but reconciled with Masson. Also, Breton met Frida Kahlo in Mexico; she is often called a Surrealist though she never officially joined. Roberto Matta, Gordon Onslow Ford and Bellmer joined the group.

1939 Caillois and Hugnet left the group

1940 Wifredo Lam joined the group.

1941 Breton met Aimé Césaire in Martinique.

1942 Breton, Duchamp, Ernst, Calas, and Carrington gained a following in New York with the publication of VVV. Newer members included Dorothea Tanning, Enrico Donati, Charles Duits, David Hare, Robert Lebel, Isabelle and Patrick Waldberg. Other artists directly influenced by the Surrealists in New York include Robert Motherwell, William Baziotes, Alexander Calder, and Frederick Kiesler.

1943 The View published the poetry of 15-year-old Philip Lamantia who later became aquainted with Breton and others in New York.

1944 Breton and Matta met with Arshile Gorky. Seligman left the group.

1948 Matta, blamed for Gorky's suicide, was kicked out of the group.

1951 In what was called "The Carrouges affair", Michel Carrouges, a writer associated with the Surrealists, was found to be a practicing Catholic and was expelled. Maurice Henry, Jacques Hérold, Marcel Jean, Robert Lebel, Patrick Waldberg, and Henri Pastoureau were also expelled.

1954 Ernst recieved the Grand Prix of the Venice Biennale and was subsequently expelled from the group.

1959 Jean Benoît and Mimi Parent joined the group.

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Year	Membership
1919	Andre Breton, Louis Aragon, and Philippe Soupault started Littérature, began an association with Dadaism.
1922	Breton appropriated the term "Surrealism" as a group -- which now included Paul Éluard, Benjamin Péret, Man Ray, Jacques Baron, René Crevel, Robert Desnos, Georges Limbour, Roger Vitrac, and Joseph Delteil -- organized under Breton and pulled away from the influence of Tristan Tzara and the Dadaists. Marcel Duchamp frequently associated with this group but never officially joined.
1924	The year the first Surrealist Manifesto was published, members also included Antonin Artaud, Andre Masson, Raymond Queneau, Joan Miró, Max Morise, Pierre Naville, Mathias Lübeck, Jacques-André Boiffard and Georges Malkine. Giorgio de Chirico briefly associated with the group but never joined.
1925	Jacques Prévert, Yves Tanguy, Pierre Brasseur, Marcel Duhamel, and Michel Leiris joined the group.
1926	Rene Magritte, E. L. T. Mesens, and others started a Surrealist group in Belgium. Pablo Picasso associated with the Surrealists but never officially joined.
1927	Soupault, Artaud, and Vitrac were kicked out of the group.
1929	For various reasons, including the political direction Breton was taking Surrealism, several members -- Prévert, Baron, Desnos, Leiris, Limbour, Masson, Queneau, Morise, Boiffard -- broke with the group and organized under Georges Bataille. However, several new members joined: Salvador Dalí, Luis Buñuel, Alberto Giacometti, René Char, and Lee Miller. Breton also reconciled with Tzara. When the second Surrealist Manifesto was published, it was signed by Aragon, Ernst, Buñuel, Char, Crevel, Dali, Eluard, Ernst, Péret, Tanguy, Tzara, Maxime Alexandre, Joe Bousquet, Camille Goemans, Paul Nougé, Francis Ponge, Marco Ristitch, Georges Sadoul, André Thirion, and Albert Valentin. Federico García Lorca was friends with Dalí and Buñuel and is often called a Surrealist though he never officially joined the group; he broke contact with Dalí and Buñuel in 1929 when he interpretted their film, Un chien andalou (An Andalusian Dog), as an attack on him.
1932	Aragon and Sadoul left the Surrealists because of the conflict between Communism and Surrealism and their dedication the Communist party. Meret Oppenheim, Victor Brauner, Roger Caillois, Georges Hugnet, Jehan Mayoux, Henri Pastoureau, Guy Rosey, Claude Cahun and J. M. Monnerot joined the group.
1934	Óscar Domínguez, Dora Maar, Richard Oelze, Giséle Prassinos, Kurt Seligmann, and Brion Gysin joined the group.
1935	Wolfgang Paalen, Pierre Mabille, and Jacques-B. Brunius joined the group. Hans Bellmer's work was published in Minotaure. Brion Gysin was expelled.
1936	Joseph Cornell debuted Rose Hobart. Though Cornell was influenced by the Surrealists and friendly with many of them, he never officially joined the group. Dalí's negative criticism of Rose Hobart further inspired Cornell to distance himself.
1937	Kay Sage met Tanguy, and Leonora Carrington met Ernst.
1938	Breton had a falling out with Eluard but reconciled with Masson. Also, Breton met Frida Kahlo in Mexico; she is often called a Surrealist though she never officially joined. Roberto Matta, Gordon Onslow Ford and Bellmer joined the group.
1939	Caillois and Hugnet left the group
1940	Wifredo Lam joined the group.
1941	Breton met Aimé Césaire in Martinique.
1942	Breton, Duchamp, Ernst, Calas, and Carrington gained a following in New York with the publication of VVV. Newer members included Dorothea Tanning, Enrico Donati, Charles Duits, David Hare, Robert Lebel, Isabelle and Patrick Waldberg. Other artists directly influenced by the Surrealists in New York include Robert Motherwell, William Baziotes, Alexander Calder, and Frederick Kiesler.
1943	The View published the poetry of 15-year-old Philip Lamantia who later became aquainted with Breton and others in New York.
1944	Breton and Matta met with Arshile Gorky. Seligman left the group.
1948	Matta, blamed for Gorky's suicide, was kicked out of the group.
1951	In what was called "The Carrouges affair", Michel Carrouges, a writer associated with the Surrealists, was found to be a practicing Catholic and was expelled. Maurice Henry, Jacques Hérold, Marcel Jean, Robert Lebel, Patrick Waldberg, and Henri Pastoureau were also expelled.
1954	Ernst recieved the Grand Prix of the Venice Biennale and was subsequently expelled from the group.
1959	Jean Benoît and Mimi Parent joined the group.
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