Talk:Excelsior (chess problem)
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The moves are very unclear and don't seem to be in proper notation. Also: Who is supposed to be moving, black or white? A table would clear that up. As it stands this article is confusing, and I've played Chess with clocks and notation for years.--Lazarus Plus 01:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Really?
I don't find the notation at all confusing. I am, however, unclear on how Bc7 may defend against Rd5 or Rf5.--69.196.212.30 18:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I do not find the notation confusing either. However, it took me some time to understand the point of the Excelsior problem. I now understand that the challenge was to mate with the small little pawn that nobody or so would have said it could mate in five. And I find it brilliant. Also, it is unclear to me how Bc7 can defend against Rd5; it cannot even stand in the way !?--Jnorguet 15:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- After 3...Bc7, 4.Rd5 fails to 4...Bxg3 and there's no mate (5.Rd1+ Be1). As Ruziklan already pointed out in his edit summary, 4.Rf5 fails to 4...Bf4. --Camembert 17:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1...Rxc2
Line not covered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChessCreator (talk • contribs) 11:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I have elaborated on solution comments. While Wikipedia is surely not a textbook on chess composition, I think this specific problem allows to enlighten some concepts, like motivation, defence (chess composition), half-defence, thematic variation, secondary variation, so that it might be useful to quote when writing about them (in the future) --Ruziklan (talk) 13:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
