Talk:Eidos
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This article was nominated for deletion on 11/14/07. The result of the discussion was Redirect to Theory of forms. |
[edit] Problems with the article
Almost everything in the recent expansion is problematic. To take just the first few sentences: No, the word is not "pronounced EE-AH-DOS." No, Plato's Forms are not well termed "ideas of the mind," since in any case the Greek word idea means "form" and not "idea." Eidetic is a redirect to Eidetic memory, which makes no mention of Husserl. The speculation about "close connections" is apparently original research. Etc., etc. I'm reverting, and as far as I can tell nothing of any relevance or value is being lost. There is no coherent topic here, only a coincidence of terminology. The appropriate place for individual thinkers and their ideas are the articles Aristotle, Theory of Forms (which already treats Aristotle's criticisms), Edmund Husserl, etc. Wareh 16:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unicode
The word eidos in my opinion should be coded by Unicode είδος like have been done in Deutsch [1]version.
- The de.wiki version is incorrect. This is an ancient Greek word which needs a smooth breathing and circumflex accent on the initial dipthong. εἶδος is right, just look it up in the LSJ. --Akhilleus (talk) 12:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
At present version I see blank space instead of ancient Greek word , better is coded Russian version UTF-8 [2], isn’t it? Fruktis 19:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hm, it should be UTF-8 here as well. The article uses the {{polytonic}} template which should force the correct font. Can you see the Greek words in articles like Athena and Apollo? --Akhilleus (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately under IE6 I am not able to see ancient Greek in above articles only in Russian version, there is applied lang-el template. But Opera9 force right fonts in English and Русский [3]versions, I don’t know real reason. Fruktis 20:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's a problem with IE. It would be nice to know how to fix it, since a lot of people use IE 6 and 7. Can you see the είδος that you typed above in IE, or do you have to use Opera? And can you see it on de.wiki? --Akhilleus (talk) 20:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I can see είδος under IE6 on de.wiki, ru.wiki, pl.wiki. I am not able to recognize second letter in current (εἶδος) under IE6 on en.wiki. I think for IE6 users only few letters in {{polytonic}} template should be replaced by letters from Russian lang-el template. It is my suggestion to take above solution into consideration.Fruktis 09:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is that your IE6 does not reliably display polytonic Greek. Changing correct ancient Greek to incorrect is not a solution. Apparently the correct polytonic Greek: εἶδος [lang-el] works for you, and I'm all for improving the polytonic template to work better, but wholesale switch to lang-el seems disruptive — I'll post something at the template talk page in hopes that progress can begin). Meanwhile, I can think of a few likely ways to fix this: (1) simply install more fonts (I recommend Gentium); my understanding is that the polytonic template simply forces your browser into appropriate fonts (the list starts Athena, Gentium, Palatino Linotype); Palatino Linotype comes standard with Windows XP; (2) upgrade to IE7 or switch to Firefox, (2) download the Gentium font and copy my monobook.css (not original with me – mostly copied from others) to your user space. This is well worth doing if you have any interest in ancient Greek on Wikipedia; in any case, the problem ultimately lies in your browser and not in the way Wikipedia pages are encoded (the polytonic template is considered a crutch for the transitional period when people's computers are not displaying Unicode correctly). Wareh 14:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
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