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[edit] comments

The last line could be correctly written in more than one way.

"Today, paintings by Degas can sell for more than US$16 million."

"Today, prices for paintings by Degas can exceed US$16 million."

"Today, prices for paintings by Degas reach no less than US$16 million."

However, prices do not sell. Paintings sell.

--E.C.


I removed this part because I am unsure if it is correct:

In Montmartre, he had an affair with one of his models, Suzanne Valadon. Degas would encourage her efforts to paint and she would eventually become one of the best known female artists of the day.

While this paper gives much information, I am not sure who wrote it, when it was copyrighted, and if it has a special "volume" numer. I'm sorry, but I just need all of this for a bibliography project. :)

[edit] description

[edit] Personal life of Degas

Isn't possible to add in a more personal section of the life of Degas. About the time and culture of the Paris, in combination of the impressionist movement, for example. Especially his view of women is very important for his work and the time period, there is absolutely no reference to that.

I find the amouth of sculptures, found back on wiki, pour. Also the links sculpture and painting in the last section does not forward to those of his, maybe someone knows how to correct this. --Grim Reaper2 15:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lot of cites

To my mind a great many of the citations in this article are superfluous. Anybody wanting to confirm that Degas' family was fairly wealthy, or that he once met Ingres, or helped organize the 1st Impressionist exhibit, could check the index of any one of the books listed as references & find the right passage instantly. When facts are neither recondite nor disputed, an excess of cites just disrupts the flow of text. If nobody objects I propose to do some pruning. Ewulp 06:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Did it Ewulp 03:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Would like to propose the following articles for external links: Realistic Painting - Impressionism, Degas - http://www.oldandsold.com/articles34/french-art-18.shtml Smithville 00:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names?

It says on these sites [1][2] that he has middle names Germain and Hilaire. But some sites like this one [3] use it as an address or as his first name. Alus 22:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Good eye! You're right about this--the edit history shows that his full name used to be in the article but was inexplicably removed sometime last spring & nobody has noticed til now. Most sources checked have it as Hilaire-Germain-Edgar Degas, so that's what we'll go with. Ewulp 23:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cites

Lots of excellent research, elaboration, and clarification have been accomplished recently, but it seems to me that the observation made here on November 7 may be relevant again. JNW 04:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Can't argue with that, they've been piling up...I'll trim some of the less needed ones & try to consolidate a few of the remainders. Ewulp 04:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
As part of this effort I've cut a line left here by a previous contributor which has always bothered me a bit:
All of these techniques were used with Degas's self-expressed goal of "'bewitching the truth'".(Hartt, p.365)
If there's any sentiment in favor of putting it back in, back in it goes-- I don't like to cut a sourced quote, but it never seemed to me that this one adds much...maybe it's a so-so translation or maybe it's too shorn of context, but it doesn't seem meaningful enough to be included. Ewulp 03:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree. It sounds uncharacteristically pretentious for Degas. JNW 04:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House in New Orleans

I've removed the section on the New Orleans house where Degas stayed with family for five months, not two years as the link stated. What might be useful here, folded into the career section, would be mention of the New Orleans stay, and the work resulting from it. The house itself, apparently now a bed and breakfast, might merit a footnote if it is not attached to a spam site, but not a separate heading with several paragraphs of content. Shall we have a distinct heading for each building he lived and created in? JNW 13:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop removing legitimate links, JNW

See the discussion over here. I'd like to keep it in one place. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation of surname

How is his last name pronounced? --John (talk) 23:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I have a source that claims the 's' is pronounced. --John (talk) 01:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

What's the source? I can't find one that favors the audible "s", e.g. Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (2nd edition) gives "de-gä" (with tilde over the e); Kaltenbach, 1972, in Dictionary of Pronunciation of Artists' Names says "dug-ah (absolutely not day-gass!)"; Oxford American Dictionaries has "dāˈgä". Ewulp (talk) 03:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Reading a biography on Degas in Swedish I've noted that the author claims the "s" to be pronounced for the following reason: Degas earlier family name is said to have been "De Gas". Our Degas started to omit the space but, according to this biography, always pronounced the 's' and used to correct people saying his name without doing so. Since a persons own preferences on how to pronounce their name usually is what is considered "the last word" in these issues this is very interesting.
Does anyone else have a source saying this?--Bjornwireen (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
There are these, [4], and [5] which may not be the last word, but confirm what I have always heard. The mystery deepen(s). JNW (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery

A rather oversized gallery of images has grown on the article. I believe that's what Commons if for. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


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