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Do eagles have a mucous that covers there eyes when they stare at the sun and are they the only bird that flys toward stormes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.234.101 (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 Haliaeetus spelling 2 rm listing 3 John Ray name 4 Haast's Eagle 5 Wrong scientific name 6 Eagle Mating? 7 Eagle and Hawk 8 Photo 9 Eagles as religious objects 10 removed image 11 Largest ?? 12 THE SELJUKID DOUBLE-HEADED EAGLE 13 Split 14 Taxonomic changes 15 Was this vandalism? 16 Eagle's weight 900kg? 17 gender 18 Nazi Germany 19 Tidy

[edit] Haliaeetus spelling

Can someone explain to me the origin of Haliaeetus (with two 'e's), as opposed to haliaetus (Pandion)? I understand hali- refers to fishing and aetos is Greek for "eagle" (like in chrysaetos, spizaetus, circaetus, gypaetus, etc). But why the second 'e'? Matters are further complicated by the fact that some people write (say) Pandion haliaeetus, and others Haliaetus albicilla. What gives? Tjunier 14:14, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Not sure, but I suspect it is just a quirk of what the first author of the name used. MPF 22:55, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Haliaeetus is "correct" in the Greek sense. haliae is sea, etus eagle. The reason Pandion haliaetus is missing an e is because taxonomists' tradition allows a species' discoverer to name the species any way they like, and apparently this one made a mistake. — I cannot remember where I read this, nor even if it was online or in a book, so I can't provide a reference for this. Sorry. — Timwi 15:56, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rm listing

I removed

• Eagle 107, an Atlanta radio station

There are probably thousands of businesses with the word "Eagle" in their name. They don't need to be listed here. Nohat 01:49, 2004 Mar 16 (UTC)

[edit] John Ray name

Was John Ray's name change really that of Aquila chrysaetos? It would make more sense in context for him to have changed "erne" to "White-Tailed Eagle". —JerryFriedman 17:11, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Haast's Eagle

I was curious as to why Haast's eagle was left out of the list, even though it's extinct. It had a wingspan of 2.6 metres and could weigh up to 20 kilos, so I'd say it was a fairly significant species.

The wikipedia lists extant or very recently extinct bird species, there is a separate list of extinct birds, where you will find this eagle.jimfbleak 06:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is a Harris Hawk, not an eagle

There is no such species as a Harris Eagle, whatever the sign says. The species shown is unmistakeable, it is a Harris Hawk, Parabuteo unicinctus. The chestnut legs and wings are diagnostic. If there is no article, I'll write one, and move the picture, but it might be a few days jimfbleak 19:35, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong scientific name

Hi. I've been working on the Crowned Eagle page extensively today. I noticed that on that page as well as this one, it had been classified as Harpyhaliaetus coronatus. This, quite plainly, is erroneous. The eagle in question goes by the scientific name Stephanoaetus coronatus. Strangely, next to that scientific name on this page, I encounter "Crowned Hawk-Eagle". Again, erroneous. I hereby amend the eagle page to get rid of "Crowned Hawk-Eagle" and correct the Crowned Eagle's taxonomy to Stephanoaetus. Thank you.

TydeNet 08:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I've corrected this, as they are different birds. Smallweed 10:41, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Can someone explain to me what is the difference between an eagle and a hawk. All you experts in the field get involved in all these technical names, etc, but you overlook the simple things that us in other fields don't know but would like to. olan7allen@comcast.net, 4/47/2006

Eagles are generally very large birds, mainly in the Old World. Hawk depends where you live. In North America it can be applied to a broad range of birds of prey, in the Old World it's restricted to the Sparrowhawk and its relatives jimfbleak 05:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Eagle Mating?

Hi, a city slicker by nature I had the opportunity this weekend to visit a freind's riverside Nebraska cabin. There I witnessed several pair of bald eagles flying a few hundred feet in the air, pairing off, locking talons and freefalling together. My friend said this is how they mate, can anybody corroberate this? Skeptical to the end, the iceman 23:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a breeding display, they don't actually copulate in the air! jimfbleak 05:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eagle and Hawk

This doesn't explain the difference in an Eagle and Hawk. What is it? I've always wondered. Perhaps this should be added to the article.Rlevse 15:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I took this in the natural history museum in Bergen, Norway. I forget what species it is, but you are welcome to use this PD photo. Adam 07:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it is a Golden Eagle, heavily bleached by the sun. jimfbleak 14:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eagles as religious objects

I'd be happier with a source for this section, sounds made up on the hoof to me. Why do they compare eagles with Christian religious symbols? Certifiable tribes - seems like the old apartheid classifations to me, does it really exist today? jimfbleak 06:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

In the Bible, the book of Levi, im pretty sure, it talks about clean and unclean animals, in which the eagle is sadly one of them, maybe one of the reasons some Muslim countries veiw America with distaste Comment left by User:Dalkarr Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Unclean for CONSUMPTION, not unclean per se. Also, it is the "Leviticus", not "Book of Levi", not that that should have anything to do with how Muslim countries would view America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.68.95.65 (talk) 21:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] removed image

This is a vulture, not an eagle! Sabine's Sunbird talk 18:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Largest ??

What is the largest bird of prey in Ontario Canada ? The Golden Eagle? Octopus-Hands 00:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Turkey Vulture is bigger]] jimfbleak 05:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I would consider a TV to be a scavenger bird, rather than a bird of prey, but I do notice the article includes Buzzards !? Octopus-Hands 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Both the NAm eagles take carrion too - and buzzards refers to Buteos rather than TVs jimfbleak 05:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

According to the articles here, most Golden Eagles are bigger than most Turkey Vultures in length and wingspan, and probably all are heavier. —JerryFriedman 06:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THE SELJUKID DOUBLE-HEADED EAGLE

copyright text deleted

I've reverted the above in the article since it is a self-acknowleged copyrightviolayion and unformatted text dump.

[edit] Split

Would it make sense to hive off the culture/religion bit, either as a stand-alone or merged with eagle (heraldry)? jimfbleak 16:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taxonomic changes

It would be great to know which of the taxonomic changes are from Lerner and Mindell and which are from Collinson (cited in the article). Those from Lerner and Mindell should probably be mentioned with "the authors of this study argue" or some such, as we know other taxonomists will come along and change everything again. —JerryFriedman 06:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Was this vandalism?

The whole article was deleted. Does anyone think this was vandalism, or just a mistake? I am afraid I do not know how to recall something from the history, or I would have already fixed it. Would somebody please tell me how and I would be happy to do it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SAWGunner89 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Eagle's weight 900kg?

I don't know the real average weight of eagles (should be between 3 and 6 kilograms according to other websites), but certainly isn't 900kg!

I'm also not sure if this is the proper way to signal the issue.

Tripleshift 16:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

It's actually talking about the nest, not the bird, but I've removed anyway since unsourced and untypical, jimfbleak 17:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] gender

what do you call a female eagle? whats a falcon? what do you call eagles chics? anything on eagles as messengers? --ചള്ളിയാന്‍ 10:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The "Old World" part is very confusing to people who do not know what it is, the average person should be able to understand wikipedia, maybe somebody could actually tell what areas they are from, i.e. africa, Europe, etc.. Just a suggestion 75.177.148.125 00:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

It's linked to its definition. jimfbleak 05:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is there any information about the eagle in the persian empire, before rome existed the Achaemenids(first persian dynasty) have had the eagle as the symble of their empire. My english is not quite godd so could s.o. pls esit this into the article. thx

[edit] Nazi Germany

I was wondering, why isn't the Iron Eagle mentioned in this article, under either national symbols or organizational symbols? Or would it be mentioned elsewhere? --DameGreyWulf 01:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tidy

this article is a real mess, but I've removed some of the unsourced, POV, trivial or misplaced. ASAIK, all the US organisational stuff, even if notable, actually relates to the Bald Eagle, not eagles in general Jimfbleak (talk) 15:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)