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The terms of the equation need to be defined.

Should "q/m ~ √G" be "q/m ≈ √G"?

I hope "vxB" doesn't mean "v × B". — Omegatron 02:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that, all fixed. --Iantresman 08:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Inappropriate

I must say that I don't like the fact that the book "Physics of the Plasma Universe" which is chiefly concerned with the pseudoscience of "the electric universe" is used as a reference here.--Deglr6328 23:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Physics of the Plasma Universe has NOTHING to do with the Electric Universe theory, and is published by a reputable publisher (1992, Springer-Verlag). If you can find (a) just ONE sentence in the book which suggests pseudoscience, (b) any mentions of the "Electric Universe" (c) any error in the section on dusty plasmas, then I'll remove the reference. Have you read it? --Iantresman 01:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
"electric universe" "plasma universe" "plasma cosmology", it's all the same nuttyness.--Deglr6328 01:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
I concur. Reference removed. It's not a particularly good or relevant reference anyways. Nonsuch 03:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I restored the citation. This is the actual book where some of the informatin for the article came from, and is in accordance with Wiki policy. What you personally think about plasma cosmology, is irrelevent to the discussion on dusty plasmas. --Iantresman 07:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

The reference was deleted again, with no comment. I've restored it. Just to illustrate that it is a valid and relevant reference, take a look at recent citations of it in the peer-reviewed literature (from NASA ADS), one of which is from 2007 --Togr 10:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I looked at these and I should point out that the references are generally for plasma cosmology and not dusty plasmas. --Nondistinguished 15:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rename to "complex plasma"?

The research community in this field decided on the term "complex plasma" to replace "dusty plasma" a few years back. Perhaps this article should be moved? --Togr 17:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

  • This page title seems to suggest that complex plasmas encompass dusty plasma, colloidal Plasma, and Plasma Crystals? --Iantresman 18:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
It sure looks that way, but that was not the way I understood the terms. I'll ask my (dusty|complex) plasma expert sources to comment (citing the meeting source if I can find it) and get back to you --Togr 18:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok, here is what my friend wrote in the introduction to his PhD thesis on complex (dusty) plasmas:
Complex plasmas is a new name of the field better known as dusty plasmas, and was officially adopted at the IV European workshop on dusty and colloidal plasmas, in Costa da Caparica, Portugal, June 3--5, 2000. Although the old term (dusty plasma) is more descriptive of the physical media at hand—"a plasma with dust in it"—we will for the introductory parts of this thesis try to stick to the new term (complex plasma), reflecting the current trend among researchers in the field. The origin of the term complex plasmas is an analogy to the field of complex fluids, which is the field of condensed matter involving colloidal suspension, as well as similar media containing small particles. Another name—colloidal plasmas—is also often encountered, but this name is used for collision-dominated plasmas under laboratory environments typical for the plasma chambers used in industrial processes.
Brattli, A.: Complex plasmas in planetary rings, the Earth's mesopause, and laboratory experiments. Dissertation for the degree of Dr. Scient., University of Tromsø, May 2001
Hope that helps --Togr 10:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


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