Talk:Duke of Wellington

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[edit] Should Duke of Wellington be a redirect to the 1st Duke?

What the hell? Mackensen (talk) 12:33, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Indeed. Let's put this straight. john k 12:52, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have moved this page because most of the links to Duke of Wellington intended the link to be to Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. The page was particularly confusing because it had a short Biography of the 1st Duke. To all intents and purposes this made it a double link. I am about to go through the list and fix those links to point to the correct one. But the system seems to be very slow at the moment. Philip Baird Shearer 12:55, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Given that there seems to be a lot of feeling about this then OK I will not move it again. But it needs stripping down so that it is not an alternative page for Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Philip Baird Shearer 13:07, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, the correct path would be to change links referring to the 1st Duke that go to Duke of Wellington to go to Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Just to add that while you are correct that many of the links are supposed to go to the first duke, many others are meant to go here. As to the stripping down, the second paragraph needs to go. There is no need for information on the parents of the 1st Duke on this page. The rest is fine. john k 13:13, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Also, most of the links that I've found are something like "this was done by Arthur Wellesley, later Duke of Wellington." That seems fine to me. john k 13:15, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, basically we need someone/some people (plural most likely - there are 250 links to here!) to volunteer to police it and look out for any that don't go like that and use Duke of Wellington as a synonym for the first Duke, and to relink them back directly to the first Duke.Neddyseagoon - talk 15:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please realise that this is not just a disambiguation page it is a page about the title (much like Monarch of the United Kingdom or President of the United States) and that it is still very much in use. Mintguy (T)

Points taken. As Churchill said of Chamberlain "he looks at foreign policy through the wrong end of a municipal drain". I was looking at it from the point of view that apart from the the Iron Duke who has ever heard of any of the others? The page at first glance looks as if it is about the Iron Duke, so any one writing a page who glances at it quickly will view it as a page about him. This leads to double redirects, which although they can be fixed now, will crop up in the future. So I think it is better to fix this page so that that does not happen. I suggest that the Duke_of_Marlborough, chosen as a template, because the title was created in similar circumstances. And that picture has to go! --Philip Baird Shearer 13:42, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There should be more detail about the succession, but this is probably still true of nearly all of the peerage pages. At one time I spent most of my time on Wikipedia writing up these details on pages such as the Duke of Hamilton but there are now many better qualified editors who regularly edit the peerage pages and I have moved on to other areas of interest. I don't think there is anything wrong in having picture of the 1st Duke on this page. No more than having a picture of Tony Blair, Thatcher or Winston Churchill on Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Further discussion of changes to peerage pages in general should take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Peerage Mintguy (T) 13:54, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arthur Wellesley (Peninsular War) Duke of Wellington is the renowned owner of the title, any followers are relations who should form a subpage. Arthur Wellesley is commonly referred to as the Duke of Wellington and anyone searching would end up more confused by the separatepage. 17:13, 26 December 2006 User:81.1.100.46

[edit] Notability?

Who is this guy? Did he invent the boots which look remarkably like hessian boots? Not a mention of them if he did. From what I can garner he killed a lot of people. If he's worthy of an article at all, should it not be in the crime category? 86.42.95.215 16:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC) You will find Napoleon killed lots more than Wellington ever did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.6.46 (talk) 11:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

does he have anything to do with chicken wellington? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.47.124 (talk) 05:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)