Talk:Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen
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[edit] Reception
Some info has been added about how this game is regarded as the best Dragon Warrior in America, and how it is the most difficult to obtain. Now, I agree on this needing citations, so please add them. Otherwise, I guess the change will be taken out. Icecypher 18:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] dark doriad merge
Shouldnt be merged. Evaunit♥666♥ 00:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't know. We have also a tag someone put thinking the article was too long. Merging would only increase the size.Jinnai (talk) 21:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- as much as i love dark doriad, the article seems more like a joke than something someone seriously thought should be on wikipedia. frankly, im surprised it hasnt been deleted yet. Evaunit♥666♥ 00:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- seems to me, it is not useful to this page, it was a minor enemy, not even a boss. Sgetz (talk) 19:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Release in America
With the only info being a generic e-mail from Square Enix that isn't even quoted anywhere, should this even be in the article? I mean, "Email from Square-Enix North America indicating that this title is not in the works for any outside release at this time." isn't a very good source and is quite vague.--Gocchin (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- I originally added this item. Here is the info I have on this Sgetz01:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Message sent to Square-Enix:
Sent: Feb 19, 2008 10:11:24 AM
Subject: DS Games
I am just a fan, and I know my voice does not count for much, but I was wondering if there is any way to know if you, Square-Enix, might be releasing in the future the DS Remakes of the Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy games that have been or are being released in Japan, here in the USA?
I am a big fan of all of the Core Dragon Quest games that have come out in the US (As Dragon Warrior) as well as the original, core Final Fantasy Games.
Thank you for your time, and I do hope to see more of your great games here in the US soon!
Thank you
Their Reply:
From: Square Enix Customer Support [1]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: DS Games (#8463-94560008-8560)
Thank you for contacting SQUARE ENIX Customer Support,
We hope this letter answers your questions.
Our parent company, SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd. of Japan, has no current plans to re-release that particular title at this time. This is not to say that it will never happen, it's just that SQUARE ENIX of Japan is currently focusing on numerous other projects.
We hope that this information has been of some assistance, and we apologize for any inconvenience.
Thanks, Neil- SQUARE ENIX Customer Support www.square-enix.com
That is the Email I was referencing, and am not sure if it is of value, or how to cite that information. Sorry if I posted it wrong before
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- It sounds very much like the customer support representative was confused by your question. You referred to the remakes as "future" when Dragon Quest IV is already out. I think the representative believed that you were asking IF they would be remade (noting the "re-release" written in the response). I don't know. I don't think it's a good basis. I think it'd be better to just remove the comment until Square Enix comes out and says "We are not releasing the DQIV remake in America." which they haven't.--Gocchin (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough, as it was something I added, I have removed this information. Sgetz (talk) 16:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The length of this article or section may adversely affect readability
I am not seeing this as being any longer than any of the other Dragon Quest Games, and out of most of them this is one of the most complete with in depth descriptions of the characters. I do not see that anything would do well to be split off into different articles. Thoughts? Sgetz 01:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- The articles for the remakes could be developed into separate sections (like the Final Fantasy IV DS article), but that may not affect the length enough.--Gocchin (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Should the Chapters that make up the story and the characters be split out? This has been done for some of the Final Fantasy Games. I guess I am just not sure what anyone was thinking about the original length there. Sgetz (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there should be any splitting into different articles. The problem is that there is too much information plotwise, and that makes it harder to understand and it goes against (somewhat) wikipedias standards of notability. I had been thinking about trimming it down a bit, but never got around to it. Evaunit♥666♥ 04:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Should the Chapters that make up the story and the characters be split out? This has been done for some of the Final Fantasy Games. I guess I am just not sure what anyone was thinking about the original length there. Sgetz (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen?
Even if Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen is the official title for the DS version, the article should be moved back to Dragon Warrior IV, since the DS version is a re-release of the NES version. --Silver Edge (talk) 14:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- It has been agreed here to use Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen. Dragon Warrior IV is a name which has been used for only one version of the game. Granted, Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen has been used only once too, but it has the particularity of being a quasi-translation of the Japanese title, Dragon Quest IV: Michibikareshi Monotachi (a literal translation would be "Those who are shown the way"). Thus one could argue that it pertains to all three versions (Famicom, PlayStation, Nintendo DS). The article guidelines are rather broad on this case, allowing subprojects to refine the naming conventions. The Final Fantasy wikiproject for instance applies a similar reasoning to the articles Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI. All in all, Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen is the best name for the article as it lessens confusion and does not go against any guideline. Kariteh (talk) 14:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I don't agree with the new name being used. The original article should still be Dragon Warrior IV, and then a new page should be made for the NDS version, much like Final Fantasy IV and other games were handled. I know everyone discussed it over on the main page, but it seems like some of that should have been here. Sgetz (talk) 13:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Does anyone think there's going to be enough different gameplay/coverage to have enough info to merit a new article? If there's not a lot to talk about, it'd be simpler to just have a sectionm on here for the game. I'd be all for a new article if there was a ton of new stuff to fill it up with. Evaunit♥666♥ 22:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I would day no. According to the article this remake is similar to the older PlayStation remake which does not have it onw article. The own difference between the two remkaes was the DS remake had improvements to the graphics and sound. I don't any reason why this ramake needs it own article. --76.69.166.248 (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Does anyone think there's going to be enough different gameplay/coverage to have enough info to merit a new article? If there's not a lot to talk about, it'd be simpler to just have a sectionm on here for the game. I'd be all for a new article if there was a ton of new stuff to fill it up with. Evaunit♥666♥ 22:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't agree with the new name being used. The original article should still be Dragon Warrior IV, and then a new page should be made for the NDS version, much like Final Fantasy IV and other games were handled. I know everyone discussed it over on the main page, but it seems like some of that should have been here. Sgetz (talk) 13:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen - Differences between DW IV and DS Remake?
How should the name changes of people and locations be handled for the DS Remake, as it does have some impact on the story with many of the characters getting new names or surnames and locations changing to match closer to original translations. Also, how should the dialog localizations be added to this article, such as Ragnar McRyan's area being Scotish, Alena's being Rusian, Taloon being Irish, Mara? and Nara? being French? Sgetz (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
