Talk:Domain of Soissons

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I believe the references to the Vandals in this article are in error; so far as I know, the Vandals never campaigned in Gaul except to raid the southern coastal towns. Certainly, Alaric II, referred to as a "Vandal king" here, was actually a king of the Visigoths, and I would say that is also who they fought in the 463 battle as well.

[edit] Last Roman enclave within Gaul or simply all of former Roman empire?

I am having a trouble attempting to answer the above question I had in mind. The articles including this and elsewhere mentions Domain of Soissons as being the last Roman enclave within Roman Gaul but it was never made clear if this is also the last Roman enclave of all within former Roman Empire. Is there any other Roman enclaves like this beyond Gaul at that point in the history? Just need to clear that up. Thanks. --Legion 23:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

It's the last within the territory of the Western Empire, unless your definition includes the Romano-British or that Odoacer was governing Italy for Zeno. Kuralyov 00:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Define Roman? There was a Byzantine enclave in Spain in the 6th century and of course in Italy until the late 11th. Sardinia and Corsica were Byzantine until at least the 8th century. Srnec 04:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

But those weren't established until the campaigns of Belisarius and Narses, a century after the overthrow of the Western empire. Kuralyov 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

But the question concerned the term "Roman" and the Empire was always a unity governed in halves, never two distinct empires. The "fall of the Western Roman Empire" really only refers to the theoretical reunion of the two halves and the rule by barbarians of whatever in the West remained in allegiance to the emperor. Rome never ceased to acknowledge itself as part of the Roman Empire. Not in 476 or at any other date that I am aware (before the modern age). Belisarius and Narses were Romans and the territory they conquered was considered to be part of the Empire by right. They were Roman enclaves. Srnec 17:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Dalmatia also was under Roman control. Why do you say that Soissons was the last Roman enclave? There were about 10 legions in the western part of the empire by 480, and none of them declared secession. By the way, what legions were under command of Syagrius?--Dojarca (talk) 02:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)