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[edit] Before you edit this template, make sure you are familiar with WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox policy

I have edited the article to include International/Serbian and Albanian names and corrected its description to Province of Serbia under United Nations administration. This should satisfy everyone (who behaves rationally). Templates are meant to be an information tool, not more fodder for edit wars or to "reflect the hopes" of any group. Regards, Asterion 07:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

And this satisfies everyone because it satisfies you? who are you to judge what is rational and what is not? I thought that was very subjective. The template should reflect the UNMIK official administration publications, not claims of the Serbian govt. regards,2Ilir pz 09:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks HolyRomanEmperor for your last contribution to the template, I think the current state of the template is the most NPOV option. It reflects the UN administration and does not belittle the fact that Kosovo is a province of Serbia. I will also suggest to list Template:Kosova for deletion and/or automatically redirecting it here. You must note that User:Ilir pz has been busy changing the template mentions on most of the Kosovo articles, therefore any agreement we reach in this template would be pointless as the article would be showing his "Kosova" template instead. I have been trying to get that one fixed too but, I reckon, the most sensible solution would be to get rid of the Template:Kosova altogether and use the current NPOV version of this template. Well, all this depending on our friend Ilir's behaviour and reaction on the matter, both of which I presume will be negative. Whether we should try to reach consensus with someone, who has proven in the past not open to dialogue, is the quid of the question. Regards, Asterion 06:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The current version is more neutral. The official name of Kosovo is put first, without Metohija. Then Albanian version as it is alphabetically first, and then the Serbian version. Thanks for judging my behavior instead, Asterion. Yours is to be proud of, you are doing mass vandalism anywhere any topic has to do with Albanians, and reverting. I am going to have you under my binoculars, and start a very careful arbitration case, as this is too much from your side. Kosova IS a territory under UN administration. And not for a long time. If you don't like this, and do not want to respect the official approved documents of UN in Kosova, such as the constitutional framework, then it is your problem. I am only citing from there. [1]. No need to revert, as I will do the same, and my revert is based on an internationally accepted documents, yours is on nationalism, and dreams of returning Kosova under the Serbian rule again. Ilir pz 09:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Uh... Why do you hate the name Metohija so much, Ilir pz? --HolyRomanEmperor 00:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I like the name Metohia, but hier is wrong place. Hier is the oficele use in UN accepted verzion from serbien language in K osovo: http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_43.pdf

UREDBA BR. 2000/43
UNMIK/URED/2000/43
27. jul 2000. godine
O BROJU, IMENIMA I GRANICAMA OP[TINA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara,
Shodno ovla{}ewu koje mu je dato Rezolucijom Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih
nacija 1244 (1999) od 10. juna 1999. godine,
Na osnovu Uredbe br. 1999/1 od 25. jula 1999. godine Privremene
administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK), sa izmenama i
dopunama, o ovla{}ewima Privremene uprave na Kosovu i na osnovu Uredbe
UNMIK-a br. 2000/24 od 12. decembra 2000. godine o zakonu koji je u primeni na
Kosovu, <u>(hier is oficele user)</u>
U ciqu razja{wavawa broja, imena, oblasti i granica op{tina pre odr`avawa
op{tinskih izbora na Kosovu,
Ovim objavquje slede}e:
^lan 1
BROJ I IMENA OP[TINA
1.1 Kosovo ima trideset op{tina kao {to je dato u Tabeli A u dodatku ovoj
Uredbi.
1.2 Zvani~na komunikacija ne mo`e da sadr`i bilo koje ime za op{tinu koje
nije naziv odre|en u Tabeli A ove Uredbe, osim u onim op{tinama gde etni~ke i
jezi~ke zajednice, koje nisu srpske i albanske ~ine znatan deo stanovni{tva, gde
se imena op{tina daju i na jezicima tih zajednica.
^lan 2
PODRU^JA I GRANICE OP[TINA
Podru~je svake op{tine i wene granice su ocrtane wenim sastavnim
katastarskim zonama. Katastarske zone koje ~ine svaku op{tinu su odre|ene u
Tabeli B prilo`enoj u dodatku ovoj Uredbi.
^lan 3
PRIMENA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara mo`e da donese administrativno
uputstvo u vezi sa primenom ove Uredbe.
^
^lan 4
ZAKON KOJI JE U PRIMENI
Ova Uredba zamewuje svaku odredbu zakona koji je u primeni a koja nije saglasna
sa wom.
^lan 5
STUPAWE NA SNAGU
Ova Uredba stupa na snagu 27. jula 2000. godine.
Bernar Ku{ner
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara

RASPORED A
IMENA OP[TINA
Albanski Srpski
01 Deçan De~ani
02 Gjakovë \akovica
03 Gllogovc Glogovac
04 Gjilan Gwilane
05 Dragash Draga{
06 Istog Istok
07 Kaçanik Ka~anik
08 Klinë Klina
09 Fushë Kosovë Kosovo Poqe
10 Kamenicë Kamenica
11 Mitrovicë Kosovska Mitrovica
12 Leposaviq Leposavi}
13 Lipjan Lipqan
14 Novobërdë Novo Brdo
15 Obiliq Obili}
16 Rahovec Orahovac
17 Pejë Pe}
18 Podujevë Podujevo
19 Prishtinë Pri{tina
20 Prizren Prizren
21 Skenderaj Srbica
22 Shtime [timqe
23 Shtërpcë [trpce
24 Suharekë Suva Reka
25 Ferizaj Uro{evac
26 Viti Vitina
27 Vushtrri Vu~itrn
28 Zubin Potok Zubin Potok
29 Zveçan Zve~an
30 Malishevë Mali{evo

Sorry but only this version is accepted from UN. They don t accepted Republika e Kosovës, Kosmet, State of Kosova, Kosovo and Metohija or somthing als. Becose that I think that you must writte only Kosovo. This is not Serbian Wikipedia, hier is english wikipedia and the only version is UN --Hipi Zhdripi 01:48, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Komuna/Opstina

http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/03albanian/A2000regs/RA2000_45.pdf

http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_45.pdf

PRIVREMENE INSTITUCIJE 1.1 Do odredjivawa bududjeg statusa Kosova, ova Uredba, u skladu Rezolucijom 1244 Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih nacija, uspostavqa privremene institucije za demokratsku i autonomnu samoupravu na op{tinskom nivou kao korak ka postepenom prenosu administrativnih nadle`nosti Privremene administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK- koja }e nadgledati i pru`ati podr{ku konsolidaciji ovih institucija.

I think if you accept like the serbs in Kosovo accept this document that you are going to anderstuden that the onl law in Kosovo is the UNMIK-law til = Do odredjivawa the statut of Kosovo is determined. Because of this argument I must return the page in my verzion.--Hipi Zhdripi 02:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Albanian POV pushers

The territory is a province of Serbia under United Nations administration, in the Resolution 1244 (1999), adopted by the United Nations Security Council on 10 June 1999[2], the UN reafirmed its commitment to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (and its sucessor state, the Union of Serbia and Montenegro, after the country changed its name). I am, therefore, reverting to the last factual version. Remember this is not a forum but an encyclopedia (and by the way this is not the Albanian wikipedia, therefore stick to English and Internationally recognised names). Regards, Asterion 06:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Is not a tertitory in Serbia. Is Territory in SR Serbia. And Serbia is a territory in SR Serbia. http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/298/89/PDF/N0129889.pdf?OpenElement Welcoming the steps taken by the Government of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia to consolidate a multiethnic society within its borders, and expressing its full support for the further development of this process, Also welcoming the plan put forward by the Government of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia to resolve peacefully the crisis in certain municipalities in southern Serbia (Preseva, Bujanoc ect, after Kosovo War it was war in this citys and i Macedonia), and expressing encouragement for the implementation of political and economic reforms designed to reintegrate the ethnic Albanian population as full members of civil society,

Welcoming international efforts, including those of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo, the International security presence in Kosovo (KFOR), the European Union, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) in cooperation with the Governments of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and other States, to prevent the escalation of ethnic tensions in the area,

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N99/172/89/PDF/N9917289.pdf?OpenElement

Determined to resolve the grave humanitarian situation in Kosovo, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and to provide for the safe and free return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes, 1. STEP (a) Promoting the establishment, pending a final settlement, of substantial autonomy and self-government in Kosovo, taking full account of annex 2 and of the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648); 2. STEP (a) Promoting the establishment, pending a final settlement, of substantial autonomy and self-government in Kosovo, taking full account of annex 2 and of the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648); 3. STEP (e) Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo’s future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);

Hier is referendum for kosovars they have joseit "intependent" ths most be acceptit from Serbia.

The bound Serbia Montenegro must bee accepti by the kosovars

This is going to be clean in Wien. They have worikit in two seits.

(d) Transferring, as these institutions are established, its administrative responsibilities while overseeing and supporting the consolidation of Kosovo’s local provisional institutions and other peacebuilding activities;

The point(d) how you can see is the key poin. If this point was not includet, UN must accepte Kosovo as state (see Kosovars Referedum they have diseitet vor independent).

Becose of thet Kosovo is non status area. UN accepte the righ oft the Yogusllav integrite and accepte the will of the Kosovars (Referendum). Also, in Wien they must dieset wat is goig too be. Till this time Kosovo hase non status and is provinc in Balkan (see UNMIK) it belong not to Kosovars and not to the Serbia it is in Air. If we pot the serbien flag ther, then t maning that thet Kosovo is provice of Serbia thet is not acceptet from nobody in UN. Kosovo is Kosovars Provinc in Balkan unter the UNMIK Administration. Kosovos representin flag in the outseid with the athers stats (SM, Macedonia, Albania ...) is the UN flag not Serbans flag. Hier we mos present the flag unter wich Kosovo is talkin with the memeber of the UN.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:35, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Before you make the rev.

Finde out the document in wicht Kosovo is representit today in the UN (our samwer els), unter the Serbian Flag.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Unter the UN flag the make the that. If Kosovo is going to user the flag of Serbia then Im going to chanche, my self. Till that s not, we are goig to let only the UN flag.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

The onus is on you. Kosovo and Metohija is a province of Serbia, which was part of the FR of Yugoslavia, whose new name is Union of Serbia and Montenegro. Whether you like it or not, Kosovo is part of Serbia. End of the argument. Asterion 17:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

My fried you are maken a mistek. Serbia is not mining SR Serbia.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Serbia is not a state.--Hipi Zhdripi 18:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1244(1999) of 2 June 1999 (S/1999/649, annex 2 to this resolution)

[The UN] reafirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region

Regards,Asterion 19:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

sr:Српске општине на Косову и Метохији. No comment ... --Hipi Zhdripi 01:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

A kind remark, Asterion!!! Stop reverting the flag with Serbia's flag. You wouldn't like if we edit in Serbian wiki pages, would you? so please leave sites that have to do with Kosovo and Albanians alone, and don't vandalize, before it is too late. Ilir pz 19:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whether you like it or not...

...The truth is that this is an encyclopedia. Whatever your feelings are, Kosovo is not an independent territory but a province of Serbia, part of the Union of Serbia and Montenegro, under transitory administration by the United Nations. If you are unfamiliar with the Security Council resolution on the matter, please refer to previous mention above. You might be frustated with reality but please understand that this is not a political forum. Regards, Asterion 06:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

you are so understanding of the situation. you keep amazing me every day. I am not impressed by your words here at all, as i know what actions you take behind this "understanding" you show here. Pretty used to this kind of triple-faced actions, have lived more than a decade under Serbian occupation. You seem to think and work exactly as those you sympathize (read SPS)Ilir pz 10:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

no need to waste time in adding the serbian flag, or Metohija name to this template. I will sadly have to remove it after every morning coffee. This template is in English, thus only the English name for it should remain. And Kosova is always represented internationally with UN flag. So, where is that I am not right? Answer before changing. Ilir pz 09:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo is a province of Serbia under UN transitional administration

UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1244(1999) of 2 June 1999 (S/1999/649, annex 2 to this resolution)

[The UN] reafirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region

Regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 19:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

You and compromise are as close as +/- infinity. Well, fine, we go back to the revert war you like. Ilir pz 20:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

My changes are based on facts, the UN Administration in Kosova approved document called "Kosovo Constitutional Framework" [3] states in its first chapter that:

1.1 Kosovo is an entity under interim international administration which, with its people, has unique historical, legal, cultural and linguistic attributes.

1.2 Kosovo is an undivided territory throughout which the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government established by this Constitutional Framework for Provisional Self-Government (Constitutional Framework) shall exercise their responsibilities.

etc. It cannot be clearer. Please follow the updated official documents before changing the template. Thank you. Ilir pz 20:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Quoting from the same document you mention:

Affirming that the exercise of the responsibilities of the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government in Kosovo shall not in any way affect or diminish the ultimate authority of the SRSG [Union of Serbia and Montenegro] for the implementation of UNSCR 1244(1999); --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

SRSG stands for Senior Representative of Security General hehehehehehehehehehheIlir pz 21:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Lol! I thought it was really stupid to call it Federal Republic of Serbia and Montenegro. In any case, my point being that a framework is a document in progress used as the basis for something being constructed. And as it says in the text, it does supersee the UN SC Resolution 1244, as you know. Cheers and good night, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

hehehhehe, you can be fun after all. I strongly believe you will change, as your strong-headedness will just lead you nowhere. One day you will wake up saying "oh my God, 1244 resolution does not exist anymore, what else can I fight with to 'defend' Kosovo 'truth'?!?" The sooner you realize that is not worth wasting time on, the better. There is so much more important stuff you can help contribute with. You seem to know wikipedia rules, and know how to do research. We can better Kosovo related articles in a more constructive way together. Cheers, Ilir pz 21:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ilir, provinces are provinces of a country. In this case, Serbia. I will remove all flags as long as you do not remove this

Hi Ilir, Why do you object so much to having Kosovo listed as what it is, a province of Serbia under UN administration? I have given you the facts and the sources and you have still been unable to provide a single one. I already explained you that an encyclopaedia is not a matter of personal preferences. As far as everyone is concerned, Kosovo is still part of Serbia and we need to show this as it is. Whatever happens next, wikipedia will reflect the changes, but at this point, you cannot simply call it a "territory" as this factually incorrect. Quoting from the UN website: "...Within Serbia there are two semi-autonomous provinces, Vojvodina (21,506 km²) in the north and Kosovo and Metohija (10,887 km²) in the south.". I could go on but you already know all this anyway. --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Read above, for Christ's sake. Ilir pz 21:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My idea of for a new version

It would replace the current version of Template:Kosovo and Template:KosMunic.

	Districts and Municipalities of Kosovo
Districts	Gjakovë / Đakovica • Gjilan / Gnjilane • Mitrovicë / Kosovska Mitrovica • Pejë / Peć • Prishtinë / Priština • Prizren • Ferizaj / Uroševac
Municipalities	Deçan / Dečani • Dragash / Dragaš • Gjakovë / Đakovica • Gllogovc / Glogovac • Gjilan / Gnjilane • Istog / Istok • Kaçanik / Kačanik • Kamenicë / Kosovska Kamenica • Klinë / Klina • Fushë Kosovë / Kosovo Polje • Leposaviq  / Leposavić • Lipjan / Lipljan • Malishevë / Mališevo • Mitrovicë / Kosovska Mitrovica • Novobërdë  / Novo Brdo • Obiliq / Obilić • Rahovec / Orahovac • Pejë / Peć • Podujevë / Podujevo • Prishtinë / Priština • Prizren • Skenderaj / Srbica • Shtërpcë  / Štrpce • Shtime / Štimlje • Suharekë / Suva Reka • Ferizaj / Uroševac • Viti / Vitina • Vushtrri / Vučitrn • Zubin Potok • Zveçan / Zvečan

It is a little rough around the edges at the moment. I have tried to keep it as neutral as possible using both Albanian and Serbian. Let me know what you think. Phildav76 19:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• I think your version should replace the current one ,for the reason the reason that it has the districts and the municipalities + in both languages. But we will need a new map soon that only has the kosovo borders --Bindicapriqi (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Names

The correct order of names should be Albanian Name first / Serbian Name second. This is not only because Albanian is the primary language in Kosovo, but also because of the UNMIK regulation: http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_43.pdf .Therefore, I am modifying the template accordingly.--_Arbër ^{Let's talk} 19:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia is not bound by UNMIK regulations, nor does it follow UNMIK naming conventions; it has its own ones. Our aim is to provide information to English-speakers in a manner that would help them understand each topic, not to reflect official usages of any country or international body. Wikipedia aims to be an encyclopaedia, not a diplomatic- or governmental-style publication. - Ev (talk) 20:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)