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Destruction of City Centre - there is an appropriate remark in 2nd edition Pevsner on the clearance of the city centre for the inner ring road and bridges. (roughly 'as a road scheme it is claimed to be a triumph, but as townscape it is a disaster.' )I'll enter it when I find my copy again and check out.Linuxlad 17:26, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- When was the inner ring road built? Not mentioned in the piece. jamesgibbon 12:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Mid 70s I dimly recollect - Pevsner 2nd edition was published in 1978. Bob
- I see - thanks. I first moved here (Derby) in 1989, and it was certainly here then! jamesgibbon 19:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes rather before then (though post-'72 I think, when I effectively left Derby) - the guy who who did the ring road for Derby Borough moved down and did Gloucester Dock for BWB - and was under contract to rejig Sharpness Dock when I first bumped into him in the early 90s. Linuxlad
I see that someone has totally removed all this section as POV - I find that surprising, especially the Pevsner quote, and hope that they will justify. Linuxlad 12:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Urban Area against Borough population
I was wondering why Derby has a bigger Borough population than Urban Area, I have always thought the Urban Area would have extended further than the Borough, i am probably wrong, but would like to know why I am nevertheless. --Wilde89 17:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Changes to Media and railway section
I have made some small changes to the media section. If anyone objects, feel free to roll them back (I'm new to this :) )
I've also changed the article to reflect the fact that train manufacture continues in the town to some extent.
(1.8.06) The 'Media' section looks to have been changed again recently - BBC Radio Derby, is the BBC local alternative, aimed at the over 50s, broadcasting on 104.5 FM - I wouldn't personally agree with this; I know loads of people under this age who enjoy the features it broadcasts. (I'm 18 myself!)
All BBC local radio services are aimed primarily at the over 55s, although they take audience from across the age spectrum.
I can't vouch for the 55 'cut-off' line, but it is true that local BBC stations are aimed at a mature audience. The only time I'm even aware of a large youth audience paying attention to the broadcast is when the football's on. - Hayter 22:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deaf Community
I added a section to history on Derby's Deaf community - I'm not sure whetehr this is the best place for it or to start a new section. Derby is nationally famous for its large sign language using community and for as a cultural centre for the Deaf World. It's a big ommisin if it doesn't get a mention somehwere on the page. I could ask permission from Harold Mold whether perhaps a photograph or two from his Book "Derby Deaf" which chronicles Derby's Deaf Community might be used - in which case it might be worth generated a separate linked article with more detail? --Topmark 14:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History
I don't want to disturb the article without something worthwhile to include but before it is commiited to CD perhaps something could be researched about its function as a trading post, the function of the Roman Garrison, the carriage of lead from Wirksworth and its position relative to Rynield Street.
Also there was once a later castle though it is almost completely forgotten, which would explain the name of Castlefields. I would have expected it to be at the top of what is now Bradshaw Way, but what clues I've gained suggest it was on Cockpit Hill (now completely hidden under the Eagle Centre. see http://homepage.mac.com/philipdavis/English%20sites/769.html
Another item to explore is the origin of the Buck in the Park (also the name of a pub in Friargate) part of the Derby coat of arms and the emblem of Derby before the snail took over. A fine example is those on the spandrels of the Fiargate bridge, though they don't show up very well in the photograph 
External link? http://www.derbyshireuk.net/derby/derby_history.html
I think it would be nice to mention Denby pottery within Derby's industry. Also Lara Croft was created in Derby and the actor 'Robert Lindsay' is from Derby—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GumballMod (talk • contribs).
- Denby is some way outside Derby so would be more appropriately mentioned in the Derbyshire article. Similarly, Robert Lindsay is from Ilkeston, not Derby.--Michig 11:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- Don't Denby also have a factory of somekind opposite the DRI?
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- That would be Royal Crown Derby I think. Chevin 18:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Waste Management
Suggest the page has an extra section about waste management and recycling in the city. Snowman 17:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] districts
I think the disrict links could do with a cleanup. Maybe changing to the official wards of the city and removing some unnecessary links Dommccas 01:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wards
As above i have put a table on this page with the official wards and all areas contained within it. I'm currently working on Allestree which as a ward contains what was Markeaton Village. It doesn't seem theres a lot of interest in changing derby at the moment. However i was wondering what people would think if i merged markeaton and allestree with a view to having only 17 ward pages with all the information for any area's contained in the ward in the correesponding page. ie have Markeaton in Allestree, Little Chester in Darley Abbey etc. With most of these there should be no problem as the smaller articles such as Heatherton Village really offer no use as a seperate article. But markeaton has a long history and maybe deserves it's own article or a redirect to the right part of the allestree article. i'm going to go ahead and add Markeaton to Allestree. if anyone objects leave a message here or on my talk page User_talk:Dommccas or just change it. It would be good to get a consensus though. Just wondering what people's thoughts were on this.
cheers
14:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sign your comments officially please, it's much easier. As for your idea, as a resident of the Allestree I can't see it being a big deal - we can always split it later if enough is gathered for seperate articles Philipwhiuk 23:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Origins
I would dispute the assertion that Derby, along with York, is one of the few places in England to have retained a name of Viking origin. All place names ending in 'by', of which there are many in the East Midlands, are Viking in origin. Ulysses54 07:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Famous Derby Residents + Random
John Osbourne (Look Back In Anger, The Entertainer) lived in Derby with his wife... this being the setting of Look Back In Anger. Some the scenes from the film were also film in Derby. James Morrison (Singer) was 'discovered' in Derby if that's of any relevance. hmmmm there is probably plenty of things i've forgotten. I just think even though the city certainly lacks culture, it surely has more than just a football club. Plus there are more venues than just the Victoria Inn and more famous/popular bands having played there than Snow Patrol and The View.
Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a list of who played were. Try to keep it short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamwade (talk • contribs) 02:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Transport: Bus and Coach section — Red Arrow service description sounds like an advertisement?
I thought that the way the Red Arrow service is described as "successful" and "operating up to every 15 minutes, and up to early hours at weekends" sounded a little like advertising.
What do we think? Catalina 123 18:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, clearly advertising, have removed it. Didn't spot this before :O Philipwhiuk 23:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC) (moved Philipwhiuk 23:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Ever heard of a Derbidian?
substantiation needed -->If you are from Derby you are refered to as a Derbidian (pronounced "dar-bid-ion") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevin (talk • contribs) 13:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up
I've tackled some of the un-cited comments with a series of edits, here's hoping I haven't upset anyone. Some of it was plain advertising and some was just badly formatted. Thanks Philipwhiuk 23:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Shopping and Nightlife
This section is pretty terrible, the "Many cities have a thriving nightlife, Derby is no exception" bit especially. Also, the entirety of Derby isn't split into Sadler Gate and Westfield. Especially as I'm pretty damned sure that Sadler Gate is just the single street. I'm unsure of how to go about describing Derby properly though. :/ 88.106.6.69 (talk) 13:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 10 Derby Facts
10 Derby Facts
1. England's most central city and with a population of 250,000. 2. Derby is rated number 1 in England for visible exports per capita. 3. Derby is England's fastest growing city (by wealth creation GVA). 4. Home to England's first public park. 5. City centre has a UNESCO World Heritage Site. 6. Home to Toyota - Europe's largest inward investment. 7. The World's leading Aerospace city - Rolls Royce. 8. Derby has more listed buildings than the city of York. 9. Derby has a top 10 rated health service. 10. Derby is the UK's leading Rail Technology city.
http://www.urcs-online.co.uk/companies/company.asp?id=21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.75.26 (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bombing of RR and other places in WW1 & 2
I added a note to the historical section on the (comparatively light) bombing of Derby, especially Royce's, in WW1 & WW2. I've since come across a little book 'The bombing of Rolls-Royce at Derby in two World Wars' by Kirk, Felix & Bartnik (published by the RR Heritage Trust, 2002). On a quick read, the 'false factory' appears to have been part of a 'Starfish' site, which was in the fields down at Foremark apparently, but is only part of the story. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 10:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Derbyshire's County Town
According to the list of county towns Derby is shown as the county town of Derbyshre. The county town is in actual fact Matlock. 87.113.85.90 (talk) 11:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)19/02/2008
