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Dead and Live Loads

Clearly a complex subject, is there any possibility that someone could provide details for calculating D&L Loads @ Higher Education Level. I have an understanding of the principals, but not of how to calculate the D&L Loads on a pitched roof for example. Cheers {unsigned|Ceej18|15:04, 16 January 2006}

See Wikipedia:Reference desk for factual questions not yet answered by Wikipedia. (e.g., How does a car work? Where was Gandhi educated?) Don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes, i.e. ~~~~. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
The loads are really no more complicated than A-Level Mechanics - your example of a pitched roof is especially easy. Dead would be self weight which you would be given (or at least the means to calculate it) applied vertically down...Live load would be the wind, snow and rain (+ any others as specified by BS) the values of which are given in Standards, eg if the BS say a pressure of 0.004N/mm needs to be added for wind you would either apply it directly if using FEA program or work out the force by F = PA.

Sam Lacey 14:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Blihps revision was incorrect - imposed loads are not human induced loads, infact very few situations are human induced...see the loads discussion page. For this reason and the break up of continuity I have reverted to the older version - Sam Lacey 01:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Proposed edits

I would like to revise this page to: (a) remove the UK-centrism and focus on staircases (b) introduce more up-to-date terminology e.g. the Eurocode use of terms such as "permanent actions" and "variable actions" If anyone has any view, please post here before I make what may be quite significant changes! Kvetner 22:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with globalising this page and if you think you can convey the examples without using staircases (I picked them as examples because I considered them complex enough to get the points across but familiar enough to not be daunting) then you are welcome to have a crack. As for the terminology if you feel the need to change it knock yourself out but I chose those over their synonyms for their comparability to other laymans terms. Personally I dont think i went deep enough into the actual Mechanics of loading and barely mentioned bending moments and inertia etc which I would like to change at some point when I can find the damned time Sam Lacey 11:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Structural Load

I would like to see this merged with the Structural load article. This article does not stand well on its own. joshschr (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


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