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Contents 1 Hashimoto 2 Japanese ISO codes 3 Keio University 4 Capitalization 5 Tokyo 6 Osaka Castle 7 Foxtrot Zulu 8 Senso-ji 9 Ernest W Twining 10 About Tokyu Den-en-toshi Line four tracked 11 Re: Editor Assistance/Requests 12 Smile From Kurowoofwoof111 13 Debu 14 Chuo/Ome Liner redirects 15 References on e.g. JNR Class ED60 16 7-eleven 17 Hi there 18 Adeyto article 19 Following around 20 Sweet irony on article Tomisgooood 21 Z Station 22 Japanese train stations 23 Machida Station (Odakyu) merge 24 Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Tagging_by_User:DAJF 25 Japanese alias & ARC 26 DAJF: pls. reply to my question on GISIN talk page

[edit] Hashimoto

Hello, DAJF. I added a source about Hashimoto at Talk:Tōru Hashimoto. Please check it. I'm not sure I should cite such a trivial infomation.--Mochi (talk) 16:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese ISO codes

Sorry about that. When I first read it using the compare tool, it looked like some edited out the first sentence. When you undid it, I thought you were just reverting to the same thing. falsedef (talk) 07:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up, as I was beginning to wonder if I was reading the sentence wrongly! Thanks. --DAJF (talk) 07:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keio University

A minor point in the context of your recent edit to Keio University:

• Keio Academy of New York

In my view, this link does need to be part of this article -- even its present inchoate state; but I wonder if the "Campus" section heading needs to be changed? I take an implication from "Campus" to imply locations in and around Tokyo. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to deal more effectively with this relatively trivial issue. Can you think of a better way to handle this? --Tenmei (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I have made some minor changes and removed a lot of the redlinks in that section. Please have a look and make further adjustments if you think it is necessary. Thanks. --DAJF (talk) 23:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. I knew the that this trivial matter could be resolved simply, but it just wasn't obvious to me. --Tenmei (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

Thank you for pointing out that guideline. I still don't think that there's anything that dictates where the article should be placed, as we have {{lower case}} to fix those such title placements.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tokyo

Hello. How come you erased it so immediately? I guess you didn't need to do this anyway...What is the standard for necessity of the articles?--210.234.48.56 (talk) 15:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It didn't appear encyclopedic to me, but if you think it was a valid statement, feel free to re-add it. --DAJF (talk) 01:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Osaka Castle

In a recent edit summary, you implied a preference for default-size thumbnail images. Generally, I prefer the default size as well, but I wonder if you'll concur with my posting non-standard sizes of thumbnail images at the bottom of Osaka Castle? I'm persuaded that reducing Yodo-Dono's memorial marker works well -- better than the default. What do you think?

The other added image is a less obvious choice for non-standard sizing; and I'd like to invite your comment in the somewhat related context of Talk:Osaka Castle#External links? --Tenmei (talk) 19:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't really see any special reasons in this case for not using the default thumbnail size, and I have rearranged them all on the right-hand side so that they do not disrupt the text so much. This sems to work well now, but have a look and see if it needs a bit more tweaking. I also went ahead and reorganized the External links using a more conventional format. --DAJF (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Foxtrot Zulu

Hey there. Just jumped on the new page patrol for today and spotted you [ removed the possible copyvio tag] - I don't see a reason why, care to enlighten me? Not saying you're wrong, just simply I don't understand why. :) Regards, AllynJ (talk | contribs) 13:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks for the warning, as that was purely a slip of the mouse, and I hadn't noticed that I had removed the tag. I have now reinstated it. Probably qualifies for speedy deletion as copyvio. --DAJF (talk) 13:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Senso-ji

You seem to be right about the way this is supposed to be written in romanji. I read the article you referenced and it helped clear up my confusion. I'd be appreciative if you'd check out my articles once and awhile to help me catch mistakes such as these! Torsodog (talk) 10:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. No problem, Sorry if it seemed like I was chasing all your recent edits, but I think it's best to keep to the same style used for all other temple articles. Keep up the good work, though. I was surprised that we didn't have an article for Kaminarimon until you started it. --DAJF (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Quick question for you. As I've been making these articles, I realized I don't really know how to use italics for Japanese words. I've seen Japanese words italicized in articles, never italicized or only certain words are italicized. Can you shed any light on this? Torsodog (talk) 09:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:Manual of Style (see 14.10 Foreign Terms) follows standard conventions for this: Japanese words (e.g. torii, bentō) that have not gained widespread use in English should normally be italicized. Not all articles out there necessarily follow the guidelines, perhaps because the original editor was not aware of them, so it is fine to edit articles you come across to follow the general conventions. Hope this answers your question! --DAJF (talk) 09:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ernest W Twining

Dave, I notice you have recorrected something I put on the Shuzenji Romney Railway page about the built date of Ernest W Twining. The locomotive was built in 1950 by Guest, not 1949!

The reason why so many people have got this wrong including the Shuzenji Romney Railway website is because incorrect workplates were fitted whilst it was running at Fairbourne, therfore everyone thinks it was built in 1949, which it wasn't! Hope this clears things up

Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterbrynt (talk • contribs) 13:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, but could you please cite the reference source(s) that backs up the correct date of 1950? Without any citations, it will be difficult to justify. --DAJF (talk) 14:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Dave. The reference is from two books 'Rails through the Sands' by WJ Milner and 'Katies other sisters' by Stan Buck. It is also from the records of the builder of the locomotive Guest. Thanks, Peter. Peterbrynt (talk) 16:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks, but could you actually add those references to the Shuzenji Romney Railway article? Otherwise other editors will end up reverting to the date shown in both the reference sources currently linked to from the article. Thanks. --DAJF (talk) 12:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About Tokyu Den-en-toshi Line four tracked

Kon'nichiwa. Nihongo ga odekini naruto iu kotode, Nihongo de kakimasita. Den-en-toshi Line no four tracked construction (fukufukusen ka koji) ni tsuiteha, Tokyu ga Oimachi Line Express no release de, June 2009 ni Mizonokuchi made no enchou (extention) wo suruto kaite arimasu node, kakunin shite kudasai.

http://www.tokyu.co.jp/railway/oimachi-kyuko/outline/index.html (in Japanese)

急行停車駅 (Stop Stations)

二子玉川 (Futako Tamagawa)・自由が丘 (Jiyugaoka)・大岡山 (Ookayama)・旗の台 (Hatanodai)・大井町 (Oimachi)

2009年6月に大井町線を溝の口駅へ延伸し、溝の口～大井町間で急行運転を開始する予定です。

(In June 2009, I extend the Oimachi Line to Mizonokuchi Station, and begin the express trains service between Mizonokuchi and Oimachi.)

Itsumo arigatou gozaimasu. Korekaramo Yoroshiku onegai shimasu. Rc21 (talk) 11:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. OK, thanks. I have now added that citation to the Tōkyū Den-en-toshi Line. --DAJF (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Editor Assistance/Requests

^{From WP:EAR}

Just checking Ldemery (talk • contribs • count) contrib log it seems that you have an editor undoing tags you've added quite systematically. While its not "against the rules" it could be classed as Disruptive Editing.

My own solution would be to ignore the lack of tags for the moment, if there are concerns other editors will tag the articles independently of you. Playing "whack-a-mole" all day gets boring, frustrating and can lead to WP:3RR violations. I would suggest that you add a section to the talk pages on the respective articles requesting the specific information that concerns you. No editor is going to deface a talk page.

I understand your frustration, we have all come across editors with ownership issues. Unfortunately when they have been editing with little or no interaction with other editors for a time its difficult for them to get into the wiki spirit. Good luck -- BpEps - t@lk 05:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the level-headed advice. I think I'll add comments to the relevant talk pages requesting citations, but refrain from entering into a revert war on the main article pages. Thanks for taking the time to answer. --DAJF (talk) 05:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe it would have been nice if you'd awaited answers before continuing reverting edits. Because there is a perfectly good explanaition. Check out Talk:List_of_trolleybus_systems#References_-_please_cut_the_vandalism and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Streetcars#Need_for_verifiable_references_on_town_tramway_list_articles. --Kildor (talk) 07:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I see... although it would have been nice if User:Ldemery could have replied on my or his own talk pages rather than a page I have not been involved in and therefore do not watch. I understand your reasoning now, but the issue still remains that these articles have no inline citations, which unfortunately reduces their value tremendously. As User:Ldemery (and maybe yourself?) has been most involved in creating/editing these pages and presumably knows where all the dates and various data comes from, I was hoping that he/she could fairly easily add references, but apparently not. That's a shame. --DAJF (talk) 07:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

No, I have not been involved in writing these particular pages (although involved in similar lists). If you take a look at the main lists (List of town tramway systems and List of trolleybus systems), there are plenty of reliable sources (although not in the form of inline citations). There is simply no need to tag these with the unreferenced template.

As a general advice: please await answers more than just a couple of hours before proceeding with edits and reverts. --Kildor (talk) 07:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smile From Kurowoofwoof111

Thanks for helping on Beard Papa's

Thanks! Receiving that just as I was dealing with an uncooperative editor was nice timing and much appreciated. Hope your day goes well too. --DAJF (talk) 07:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Debu

Hi, this is regarding your edit to DEBU's article, changing DEBU to Debu. Is this based on Wiki rules or it's only an English standard thing? Because for the band, it is their trade mark to write it that way (with all capital letters), just like for example the band t.A.T.u also have their own way to to write their band name. Cheers. Bs132425 (talk) 09:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I changed the article name to "Debu" to bring it in line with the guidelines in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) which say that standard English capitalization rules should be used in preference to the style used by the organization. As the band name does not appear to be an abbreviation or acronym, it should be written as "Debu" in English, and this is also the way it is written in several of the references used for the article ([1] and [2]). I am not sure that the t.A.T.u. article conforms to Wikipedia guidelines, either, but that's a separate issue. --DAJF (talk) 10:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chuo/Ome Liner redirects

Now that the pages have been split, how would you feel about deleting the old redirects? I can imagine someone typing Chuo Liner or Ome Liner into the search box, but Chūō Liner/Ōme Liner and Chūō Liner and Ōme Liner seem unlikely as search terms. Especially with macrons. There are no incoming links. Fg2 (talk) 03:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that the Chūō Liner/Ōme Liner and Chūō Liner and Ōme Liner redirects are now no longer necessary. I was just looking up the procedure for dealing with such redirects. Should they be nominated for speedy deletion as "CSD R3" or posted to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion? --DAJF (talk) 05:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd say speedy. The one that you created can certainly be blanked and speedied G7 (author requests deletion); for the other one (or both) R3 should work (I'll give it a try for the one Kusunose created). They're implausible search terms. If an administrator declines speedy deletion, the long way should do it. Fg2 (talk) 06:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References on e.g. JNR Class ED60

I've noticed you've put a reference on e.g. JNR Class ED60: いのうえ・こういち "国鉄機関車事典", 山海堂. It might be useful to our readers if we provided an English translation of that to at least explain what it is. Google translate gives me "INOUE KOUICHI "Dictionary of National Railways locomotive", Sankai Hall", which looks pretty good, but my Japanese is essentially nonexistent so I can't verify that very much. What do you think? Thanks, Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 05:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and I have now added an English translation for this reference source. Thanks for pointing it out. --DAJF (talk) 05:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 7-eleven

Regarding your revert on 7-eleven, you seem unaware that the parent company logo is in fact used on many 7-elevens. All new 7-elevens in Japan have it, and most are being converted. And something like 40% of the world's 7-eleven's are in Japan, and it is of course, a Japanese company also. I urge you to reconsider your edit. --C S (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand your logic, and I was well aware of the increasing use of the parent company logo, but the official website gives prominent place to the 7-Eleven logo, which is also shown on a store image, while the parent company's logo is less dominant. Maybe the situation will change in the coming months or years, but I'm not convinced that the 7 & I Holdings logo has yet become the defacto logo for 7-Elevens. --DAJF (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for explaining! --C S (talk) 19:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi there

I undid your stripping the Adeyto article of almost all information it provided. I am working on it right now and researching for citations. Coming soon.Tsurugaoka (talk) 02:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I hope you have more luck than I did in finding reliable reference sources. Please note that Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons says that "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." --DAJF (talk) 02:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adeyto article

Hi, just a note, your removals and addition of fact tags on all sentences were not totally required or needed. You removed filmography entries--we do not source each entry on an actor's history, on any article. We also do not put fact tags on each and every sentence. Lawrence Cohen § t/e 13:02, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Are there any Wikipedia guidelines that back up what you are saying? I was using WP:BLP as the main guideline to follow, and that seemed pretty clear about removing uncited statements and material that cannot be verified. While most of the details in the Adeyto article are not controversial in the sense that they are negative, that is actually part of the problem, as it appears that the author(s) have a close relationship with - or may even be - the subject of the article. I am concerned about the general self-praising tone and mention of participation in numerous high-profile projects and films despite the fact that very little of this can be verified. I'm not out to "gut" this article, I just want to see it written from a disinterested viewpoint. Believe me, I have tried looking for reference sources both in English and Japanese, but with nothing to show. Maybe you will have more luck. --DAJF (talk) 13:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

so, do you live in Japan or just faking it? because if you did, you would know that for example being regular on "Waratte Iitomo" for 1.5 years is a thing that you shouldn't snip of the profile list, or was it one of your, let's put it in your words, slip of the mouse? And the Magic Lesson film, it was a world premiere to use that shooting technique as it's written in IMDb so it's reason enough to have it mentioned, no need to have Angelina Jolie in it to attain notability. Your reasons for crippling every sentence in this article are quite wired to me and you seem a lot like Guy, maybe a sockpupet? I mean, that could be as much possible as your assertion about the self-praising tone. Tsurugaoka (talk) 10:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I don't see what relevance where I live has to the Adeyto article. If you can provide verifiable reference sources for the particular claims about being a regular on "Waratte Iitomo", then please feel free to reinstate it. If not, such claims do not belong on a biography about a living person, as per WP:BLP. The same applies to the section about "Magik Lesson". I could not find any references to this film anywhere on the web, including IMDB. Unless you can provide reference sources, it does not belong in this article, as per WP:PROVEIT.

Finally, I strongly recommend that you read Wikipedia:Civility, as I don't appreciate first being called a "worker ant" [3], and now "fake" and "sockpuppet". I don't expect you to apologize, but please focus on working to improve the article rather than resorting to name-calling. Thank you. --DAJF (talk) 11:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you live in Japan, you might know that Iitomo is THE most notable show someone can be on AND you might have seen Adeyto on it as everyone watches Iitomo even by mistake. So erasing this info is wired for someone that pretends to be "senior" grade in Japanese (matters). Also, you might know "2channel", you surely still can find forums made by Adeyto's fans on it and there's one even titled "【いいとも】ウィンドラス・ローラ【スマステ】" (http://tv6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/celebrity/1071374812/)

and by the way, if we are at it, why not citing even such "2channel" sources? There are plenty of them or even people's blogs, tons of needed proof.

thanks (and I mean it) for making me laugh deeply about people's random reactions to being called "ant something" (as if that would be the end of the world). I don't recall calling you "worker ant" but I labelled such self-important editors "ant soldiers" and I could indeed refrain from it just like you could refrain from implying that "the author(s) have a close relationship with - or may even be - the subject of the (Adeyto) article"

on a personal note, I don't see the extreme need of Wikipedia to have every statement proved right through linking it to some other website. Web sites if notable or not, come and go like the the tide. I would understand this urge, if all web sites would be kept somewhere in the Internet forever and ever. But what will you do in 2 years? in 10? All the links we are now wasting our life to find, will surely disappear. And then what? Start all from scratch? Take a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bush, for example, it surely has less references than what you are trying to do here.

stop undoing my actions just to provoke me to undo yours (and I mean it). Go see Sushi Ouji, it's in cinema now, you will see her credited as Adeyto. Don't forget that IMDb isn't written by God himself. Since Laura Windrath changed her name to Adeyto, nothing is credited with anything than Adeyto or Adeyto Laura or Adeyto Rex Angeli, you can go to Tsutaya and get the films/dramas and have a better proof than IMDb can give you.Tsurugaoka (talk) 12:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I will try and reply to all of your comments/questions...

I am well aware of how popular "Waratte Iitomo" is. That is not in question here. What is in question is whether Adeyto has appeared on it as a regular. If you can provide a reference source verifying this, please feel free to add it, as I said before. If not, it does not belong in this article.

Blogs and web forums such as 2 Channel are not acceptable as reference sources. You can read Wikipedia:Verifiability for more details.

You personally may not see the need for verification, but Wikipedia does. Again, it is all explained in Wikipedia:Verifiability.

I reverted your edits because they added uncited information in contravention of WP:BLP and WP:PROVEIT. It is not my wish to provoke anyone, but repeated revertion and addition of uncited material may lead to blocking, so please read WP:PROVEIT carefully before taking such action.

The reference sources (IMDB etc) indicate under what name Adeyto/Laura is credited for each film. If you can provide reference sources that say otherwise, please feel free to add them. Visiting Tsutaya is not a way of providing verifiable references to Wikipedia articles. --DAJF (talk) 12:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I will undo your last action on Adeyto. Because you are pushing wrong facts just to push your ego. Even if IMDb lists "Renai Shashin" as College, THEY ARE WRONG. It's COLLAGE, as in "collage of pictures" (I can mail you a picture of the cover, if it helps). You think you know (Japan) a lot, but I surely know (it) better. Thanks for understanding.Tsurugaoka (talk) 12:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Following around

I'm curious why you decided to follow me around like that. --evrik ^(talk) 16:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. No need to be curious! I noticed that you made what appeared (to me) to be an incomprehensible change to an article on my Watch list. On checking your User contributions list, I saw that a large number of similar unexplained edits had been made to other articles at the same time, which I therefore reverted. That's all. --DAJF (talk) 23:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sweet irony on article Tomisgooood

im tom and im from devon please feel free to add suitable stuff to this page peace:)

Somehow i could not help laughing when i saw the "suitable stuff" you added. After all, what is more suitable then {{db-bio}}? :) Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 08:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Z Station

ギネスにはちゃんとZ駅で登録されていると津駅で書いてあります。よく読んでもう一度考え直してください。あとこちらもお読みください。--Nishi-Kyo (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese train stations

I've reverted all of my edits because the source I found for station names (which was quoted to me nearly a year ago, I think, when editing other train stations not in Japan), indicated no capitalization: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK stations). I was unaware of a Japanese-specific naming convention, and reverted my edits without knowledge of them.- CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 15:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Machida Station (Odakyu) merge

すみませんが、ノート:町田駅 (小田急)をよんでもらいましたか。1週間以内に返事が来ないなら、自動的に統合します。--Nishi-Kyo (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

読みましたが、賛成はしていません。Mergeは十分合意を得てから行うべきです。--DAJF (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Tagging_by_User:DAJF

Just wanted to let you know that there is an AN/I thread regarding you. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 05:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese alias & ARC

I have edited that Japanese alias article, split the 'how-to' stuff into a non-WP article, and put the Alien registration card info into a separate WP article. I have applied for a peer review. If you would like to contribute to either article, please do so. If you need to discuss the article, pleased do it on the article discussion page, and not my talk page. Thanks.--Mak Allen (talk) 02:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DAJF: pls. reply to my question on GISIN talk page

DAJF, please see [4] for a question I have for you RE: the GISIN page. (I found your brief note in on the HISTORY page, but there was no explanation on the TALK page RE: why this edit was made.) Thanks, philiptdotcom (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied to on Talk:Global Invasive Species Information Network. --DAJF (talk) 00:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)