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Contents 1 Comment from Boguscommunity 2 Sorry! 3 Spaming from specific site 4 Grammar editing 5 Navigation template question 6 browser topic 7 Research requests (tentative offering) 8 Problem with page 9 ManyThanksToWattle VS Longhair et al 10 Naming Convention 11 Most accessed articles 12 Obey your master 13 Template:Shades of green and Template:Shades of cyan 14 How do you update the collab section? 15 Social Networking Terms 16 collab 17 Wider Attention system 18 WTF?? 19 Presentation 20 Need help with a page and searching 21 Namespace 22 Merge 23 BJAODN 24 Wanna Be page 25 French flag at the top? 26 Country Flags 27 Wikipedia:Templates with red links 28 Need help to translate... 29 "."s 30 Edit request 31 Account merge 32 Collaborations 33 Lutheran Collaboration

Comment from Boguscommunity

Can we please remove the word "community"? Boguscommunity 17:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, because then it would just be called "Portal", which would be confusing, because we have an entire namespace called that – Qxz 05:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry!

Sorry for the no-summary, no-change edit I just made. I was trying to use the search function in WikiEd. Instead I'll be using the delete button in Firefox and going back to ordinary editing. Cynical 23:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure you actually did make an edit (at least, I can't see one in the history). If you click "Save" without changing the page it doesn't actually save an edit. You have, of course, made an unnecessary edit now, but on this talk page instead :) – Qxz 12:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Spaming from specific site

A site named "goldarths review" has placed many many purposeless links throughout wikipedia. Is there anyway to remove all of them easily?

Grammar editing

I think what we could really use, in addition to a Peer Review section, is a Grammar Review page. If an article is of solid quality, but the writing is somewhat less than adequate, it would be a handy place where wikipedians with strong grammar skills could give a PR'd page a good polish (prior to moving forward for FAC). Any thoughts on this? — RJH (talk) 17:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Sounds fair enough to me. If you think there should be a page, by all means go ahead and set one up; once you have done so, you may wish to let people know about it by posting a message on the noticeboard. This page, though, is intended for discussion of the Community Portal page itself, so is probably not the best place to discuss new projects. The Village pump has a section for discussing proposals, which may be of use – Qxz 08:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

We actually already have Wikipedia:WikiProject Grammar. -- Beland 09:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Navigation template question

Over the last few days, someone's been futzing with the template that contains the links into Wikipedia such as Recent changes, Random article, etc. Now the link to Community Portal has vanished -- which is one of the principal links I follow. Who is playing around with his & where are they discussing these changes so I can add my input? -- llywrch 22:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears to be there now, in the "interaction" section. Have the headings there always been uncapitalized? Huh. --Maxamegalon2000 00:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I still don't see it; I don't see an "interaction" section. I'm using the Classic skin; before I start griping, can someone direct me to the proper place to ask about this? -- llywrch 00:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I use the MonoBook skin, and I see exactly what Maxamegalon saw. The sidebar's location is MediaWiki:Sidebar, so the best place for questions is probably MediaWiki talk:Sidebar. Picaroon 01:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I am so lost in the Wiki page and I am desperate for help. Anyway I do like podcasting because I can take my class with me anywhere I go. I am not locked into specific dates and times.(DSW2)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.146.100.36 (talk)

welcomed. --Quiddity 20:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

browser topic

Very recently this page had an item about a browser for Wikipedia.. can someone please give me a wikilink? Tks!--Ling.Nut 22:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean this talk page? In that case, see the most recent archive. With regards to the portal itself, try its history or the history of the pages transcluded onto it. Picaroon 22:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I think he means the Community Noticeboard, in which case he's looking for either wikEd or AWB. If he was looking for the Wikisuite, that was deleted as spam. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

You mean the Community bulletin board. The Wikipedia:Community noticeboard is something else entirely ;) --Quiddity

Noticeboard, Bulletin Board, same thing. Stop being so picky. :P —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 19:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Research requests (tentative offering)

• User:Blaxthos/Research requests

In my spare time, I am offering my services to perform research requests. I'm just kinda doing a trial run right now, to see if anyone is interested in utilizing the resources I have available. Basically, I'll run requirements through a rather thorough academic search engine (encompasses JSTOR, EBSCOhost, others) for peer reviewed reliable sources (I will not provide the actual article, but it could be a good way for researchers to find starting points when working on articles). I have no idea where to float this service for community reaction/feedback/interest levels, so I'm posting it here. Check it out, leave me a note on my talk page if anyone has comments/concerns/questions. I'm not opposed to this notice being moved or re-posted in a more appropriate place, if there is one. Thanks. /Blaxthos 08:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

There are 3 places related to your offer. Wikipedia:Research resources, Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange and Wikipedia:Newspapers and magazines request service. They're all in the need of a good merging though (along with related pages like Wikipedia:Library), so I'm not sure beyond that. --Quiddity 18:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yea, that's exactly why I'm keeping this as a single-person userspace project. Those both look like ambitious undertakings that went nowhere (offense not intended). Is there some way we can get a bullet point thrown up on the BB or CP or PUMP just to let people know? Is that a good idea or not so much? /Blaxthos 16:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with page

I just had problems with this page, whenever I open it using Firefox 1.5.0.11 under Windows 98 FE it crashes the computer and I recive a fatal eror. Has anyone else got this problem? Lcarsdata 20:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Well that's impressive! I don't know what could be causing it; the page is xhtml valid, and doesnt have any fancy plugins. Is this a consistent/repeatable result?

(and do we want to know why you're letting anyone use win98FE online?!? i just recently migrated to linux, after almost a decade of win98SE... I feel your pain) --Quiddity 02:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, you should very seriously consider not using Windows 98SE online - it's just not safe enough, and even if you're got a very good firewall+antivirus+antispyware, it's not even supported any more. Secondly, why are you using Firefox 1.5? Firefox 2.0.0.3 is out, and much more secure. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 09:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have just tried again, my computer froze however eventually 'fixed' itself and the page now works. I do not own the computer I am currently using and am therefore unable to upgrade the operating system and the web browser. Lcarsdata 11:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

ManyThanksToWattle VS Longhair et al

The above eds are gems for keeping the Coolac Massacre discussion humming. Thanks guys. Its this alternate side of wik that, through the aggro of eds, ensures stuff continues to be discussed, wik has some use.

Stay cheerful as its better for your stress level. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Itsmuriel (talk • contribs) 23:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Hi, this is the discussion page for Wikipedia:Community Portal, and is intended for discussion of the layout and content of that page. This is probably not the right place for your comment; if you wish to recieve a response, I recommend you post your comment at Wikipedia:Village pump, or find a more specific page which suits your intention. Thanks – Gurch 18:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Naming Convention

Why does Community 'P'ortal have a different naming convention to every thing else? I don't see Featured content have a second capitalisation, nor Current events. This should be changed really. Thoughts? Jaser 12345 14:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I suppose they treat the "Community Portal" as a "place"(kind of) while "featured content" isn't. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by -Ozone- (talk • contribs) 04:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

A "Portal" is a special kind of page, it's not a regular article page. There are many of them. You can read about it here: Wikipedia:Portal. --Parzival418 20:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Most accessed articles

Does anyone know how to access the page listing the 100 most frequently accessed articles? I remember seeing it but can't for the life of me find it right now. Thanks in advance. John Carter 15:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[1], "Wikicharts" is the name. —Centrx→talk • 17:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Obey your master

There is a problem with the site page for Master of Puppets (song). The Trivia section of the page has something there, it just won't show up. I don't know how to do cleanup so could someone get that for me. I appreciate it. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Merc 354 (talk • contribs)

This page is for discussing the Wikipedia:Community Portal page. For unrelated questions, you should probably go to the Wikipedia:Village pump. Thanks. --Maxamegalon2000 14:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Shades of green and Template:Shades of cyan

According to User:Penubag, there is a color caled "Pastel green" with the hex triplet #77DD77. If these colors could be added to the templates on the title, it would be very helpful. Thanks, †Sean gorter† 14:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Ask at their talkpages. This page is just for discussing the Community portal. Thanks. --Quiddity 18:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

How do you update the collab section?

Wikiproject Birds's colab of the month has been bird for two weeks but I don't know how to change it on this page. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

There should be a current collab page in WP Birds which automatically feeds there. I'll have a look on my watched pages. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 03:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

here it is. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 03:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Social Networking Terms

I'm trying to standardize social networking terms, iron out the difference this and a random web community, etc. Mathiastck 09:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

If you mean the difference between the Wikipedia project and a random web community, then there are many differences, but by far the biggest is that we are here to make an encyclopedia. This is not MySpace, or a community for its own sake – Gurch 14:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

collab

some collaborations aren't on your board thingy such as the NZ one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.195.86.37 (talk)

The New Zealand Collaboration of the Fortnight is currently inactive. Inactive collabs gets removed. Ask at the talkpage, and/or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand, to help restart it. --Quiddity 17:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Wider Attention system

I am interested in integrating {{wider attention list}} onto the community portal, as described on User:MessedRobot II. Any objection? MessedRocker (talk) 01:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The intended use is unclear to me, which namespace's talkpages, article or wp?

I'm mainly concerned here with page layout problems (The bulletin board can have as few as 2 entries in the left column at times), and non-duplication (i.e. is this redundant/mergable with any of WP:RFC, WP:CENT, or WP:3O?). If we can avoid those two, then I'm happy : )

Oh, and add a pointer to the docs, at the template. --Quiddity 05:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Say a discussion is taking place on a random discussion page, and you want to bring it to the attention of the community. By tagging the page with {{wider attention}}, you get a nice flashy tag denoting the discussion, and a bot lists it on a list which could be transcluded on a number of pages. MessedRocker (talk) 00:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm not sure about that. A few things:

• There is already a strong current of dislike for the large talkpage templates. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Talk_Header for the latest iceberg tip, reaction-wise. Could I suggest that you make {{wider attention}} default to the small=yes size option's width? (class="messagebox small-talk")

• It's not really supposed to be big, however I have no problem with making the lettering small. MessedRocker (talk) 04:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• How long is it going to get, or, what is the removal criteria? Will you (and anyone else who joins in) be maintaining the list?

• It's as long as many pages are tagged with it. The tag can get removed when discussion goes stale -- once it's removed, the bot removes it from the list. MessedRocker (talk) 04:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• And I'm still not sure whether you mean article-talkpages, or "Wikipedia talk:..." pages, or both. 2 random examples would help, and provide a visual test.

• A good example would be a policy's talk page -- not everyone looks at them all the time, yet some important discussion may be going on there. Or what about an article's talk page where there's a dispute going on and there are not enough people commenting? Or what if a guideline is being questioned for a good reason on some random article talk page? This template helps keep the Wikipedia community informed on matters -- and bringing something to community-wide attention is as simple as slapping a tag on the page and then removing it when you're done. No confusing template editing, no laborious crossposting, and best of all, when you don't need the advertising anymore, simply remove the tag. MessedRocker (talk) 04:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Add a noinclude'd note to both template pages pointing out where the instructions are. I tried, but the code disagreed! ;) --Quiddity 01:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• That's because of how the code works. I'll try to fix it so that the documentation is kept in. MessedRocker (talk) 04:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I made a few changes to {{wider attention}}, does that look good to you?

Lastly, any suggestions on where in the community portal to place it? Underneath the WikipediaWeekly? Or somewhere in the green "Help out" box? --Quiddity 05:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The changes are fine, and underneath the Wikipedia Weekly box sounds good. In the meantime, I'm trying to fix it so the <noinclude stuff stays, and it's proving to be more of a headache than I had anticipated. MessedRocker (talk) 06:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

That is now fixed, and everything should be functional. MessedRocker (talk) 06:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave it all to you, and just fix any problems I see. (Busy day, busy life :) --Quiddity 18:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Is that permission to add the list to the page? MessedRocker (talk) 00:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yupyup, not that you need it. I'm just usually the fastest-to-reply maintainer around here currently, and I occasionally know what I'm talking about :) --Quiddity 00:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

WTF??

In Wikimedia.org, I am trying to upload a file, but after I'm finished, the Upload File is disabled!!!! Will you PLEASE help me?  PNiddy  Go!  0 03:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Ask at Wikipedia:Help desk, this is not the right place to ask for help. And give them more details, such as the name of the file you're having problems with. Thanks. --Quiddity 17:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Presentation

Can someone move "Religious persecution" away from "Expand" to avoid ambiguity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.198.250.72 (talk)

Ha! I moved it one over. (The bot that maintains the list changes it all every 24 hours) --Quiddity 17:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Need help with a page and searching

I have been working on the wiki page for my old man, the journalist Alex Shoumatoff. Here is the page. A few days ago it searched well under his last name "Shoumatoff" with 100% relevance. Someone moved the title name of his page and it does not show up in searches any more under his last name even though it is spelled correctly, and only shows up when his full name is entered in the search field, when it showed up as 100% relevance a few days ago... Does anyone have recommendations on how to fix this or what is going on? --Dieselcruiserhead 21:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Namespace

Since this is the Community Portal, why is it in the Wikipedia namespace, and not the Portal namespace? I guess Portal:Community would be a bit weird, but it seems more in line with the styles and naming conventions, and the purpose of portals. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Community leads to a portal about Community; portals are for article-space. This page is centered around the project-space, and hence belongs in project-space. :) --Quiddity 17:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Please see a merge discussion thread, at Template talk:WP nav pages (header bar). Thanks. --Quiddity 17:25, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

BJAODN

While there was good reason for bringing to an end the BJAODN pages as they were - there should be a redirect to the relevant "pages for amusment" from the acronym. There is a case for "a discussion page for articles, snippets and fragments" which are deliberately or unintentionally funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.240.26 (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wanna Be page

I noticed something, I dont know if this is the right place to post though. The wannabe_kate page that shows # of edits, is that all based on the song "Kate" by the Ben Folds Five, which has the lyrics: I wanna be Kate! Kate! ? JoshEdgar 01:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You may want to post things like this in the future on the artist's wiki or the album that the song is featured on wiki. FifaEditor --58.108.6.178 06:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

FifaEditor: Ehrm, JoshEdgar means the "Interiot's 'Wannabe Kate' edit counter" that counts user edits on Wikipedia. It is a Wikipedia tool, not an external site. Anyway, Josh, the place to ask is probably at User talk:Interiot since he/she built that tool.

--David Göthberg 22:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Interiot hasn't been active in a few months. --Quiddity 19:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

French flag at the top?

I see a French flag being displayed at the top left corner of the page? I don't see where it is coming from? Am I missing something? Shushruth ^{\talk page \ contribs} 21:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It was being transcluded onto the page through a template. Should be fixed now. --Farosdaughter 21:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Country Flags

Does anybody know what's up with the flags on every article. There are only 2 or 3 flags that show up on the articles and the rest appear as FifaEditor 09:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed it too. Is there something wrong with the images on the commons? Coemgenus 00:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Loads of images (particularly flag images) not showing. --Quiddity 04:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates with red links

Wikipedia:Templates with red links is an inactive project. How about removing it from the community portal page? --65.78.215.202 02:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Quiddity 04:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Need help to translate...

...No-bid contract to spanish (only the title). I didn't found it on WR or similar :(
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.78.182.165 (talk) 21:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

"."s

Should image captions have periods? What if they have several sentences? Beast of traal T C _ 00:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)Beast of traal

See Wikipedia:Captions. (yes, if they're full sentences.) --Quiddity 18:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit request

I can't edit this page (apparently I am not an "established editor"). Perhaps another editor can change "in to" to "into" here: "Merging is the process combining two (or sometimes more) articles in to a new article"? Thanks. Mira Gambolputty 08:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

done– Gurch 15:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Account merge

i forgot the password to my old account, "Charles Talbut Onions"... please merge.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C.T. Onions (talk • contribs) 28 October 2007

Collaborations

I think I remember hearing that only active collaborations are on the Community Portal. I think there are a few inactive ones on the list. I 'm going to remove some of them if no one objects. . .--Banana 04:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Lutheran Collaboration

Hi. I'm a total idiot. I have no idea how to add the Wikipedia:WikiProject Lutheranism/Collaboration to the list of collaborations. If anyone else does, I would be most appreciative if they were to do so. Thank you. John Carter 21:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Quiddity 00:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)