Talk:Computer ethics

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Computer ethics was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: June 11, 2006

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[edit] Ten commandments

This keeps getting inserted. Unless one of the editors concerned owns the copyright, or has permisision to use the material, or can point to a waiver of copyright, or something of the sort (in which case, the evidence needs to be placed on the Talk page), including this material in Wikipedia isn't acceptable. I've removed it twice now; please don't make me remove it again. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:20, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

At the bottom of the article where I got the 10 commandments it reads " permission to duplicate or distribute this document is granted with the provision the document remains intact, or that the original document source be referenced" Both was done. I don't see the problem?

1. Please sign comments (and it's best to sign in).
2. The problem is that, whoever you are, you didn't mention any of this either in an edit summary or on the Talk page (even when the text was removed, and you were asked to supply details). Moreover, you didn't give a reference to the source, you only reproduced the copyright message.
3. If you could supply the url for the source, it would probably be best to add a link in the external links section. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:57, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ignoring copyright questions, the 10 commandments are an NPOV violation anyway. It's not appropriate for an encyclopedia article to make recommendations and ethical judgments. I think it would be a good external link, with a suitable neutral description. Rhobite 19:10, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

The "Ten Commandments" are from the Computer Ethics Institute of the Brookings Institution. See http://www.brook.edu/its/cei/overview/Ten_Commanments_of_Computer_Ethics.htm . It seems pretty clear from that page that they not only allow, but also encourage reproduction of them, though they retain copyright, and request attribution. So I don't see a copyright issue. I do not know how influential they have been -- Brookings is a reputable organization, and they claim that they've been "effective", but I don't know. If they are in fact widely used and accepted, then it would seem to make sense to at least link to them, with some context. It may even make sense to include them in the article, but with appropriate contextualization, e.g. "The Computer Ethics Institute, a project of the Brookings Institution, promotes the following 'Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics', which have been widely adopted <<<is this true?>>> in <<<this and such contexts>>>". --Macrakis 16:02, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Since everyone (including me, sorry i didn't read the history page before i did it) keeps inserting the 10 commandments, doesn't that mean that the common conception is that they are a big part of computer ethics? These are one of the few standards out there, and they are short enough to include. As for the copyright: CEI says "If Duplicated, Please Cite the Computer Ethics Institute" which is why I used the sentence: "The CEI defines them as". If you are worried about copyright, I would prefer the link method, but I do think they are a vital addition to computer ethics. -- Maxberger 29 Jun 2005

[edit] Two new areas

Hello. I'm the person who originally posted this article. I appreciate all the additions people have made to it, but I do call into question the recent additions to it:

A complement to ethics…

I believe the concept of social responsibility is touched on in the Issues section. If you wish to expand upon this topic, I believe the third issue in that section should be expanded. What do you thin?

One theory of the nature of ethics

I don't believe this section is appropriate for this article - it deals with the general topic of ethics itself and not computer ethics specifically. Theories regarding the formation of ethics seem far more suited to the main ethics article.

Please give me feedback regarding these issues. Thank you. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:21, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I agree on both counts. I changed the title of the latter section to make it more accurate (it was presented as the theory of ethics! I'll take it out, I think. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:32, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for not promoting

Hi all,

I have not promoted this article because I feel it does not adequately cover the major aspects of the subject. It offers little detail on any of the points it raises. It does not seem to explain how computer ethics and general ethics relate to each other. It does not offer a means to obtain further information on the Collins and Miller or Davis methods (nor does it offer any examples of how the methods work). And, finally, it lacks sufficient inline citations. Please feel free to resubmit this article when these issues are addressed.

Cedars 08:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)