Talk:Clan MacLeod

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Battle in 1601

The version of events that I have been told is that Donald Gorm's wife had not become pregnant after a year of marriage and this was the reason for the divorce. The actual battle took place at Carinish in North Uist and is noted on some maps as the 'Battle of Carinish'. In the battle the MacLeod side were routed and the stream nearby ran red with blood and it was known as Clais Fuil (the ditch of blood).

I have also been told that this was the last battle, in Scotland, fought using traditional weaponry (no firearms). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macljotr (talk • contribs) 11:06, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

In an 1877 book I have called Scottish Highlands Clans and Regiments, it lists the two sons of Leod as Tormod and Torquil, whereas it has Norman and Torquil here. Does anyone know anything about this? Mezziekins 07:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Norman is the English version of Tormod.

Exactly.

As a native Gaelic-speaking Macleod from Lewis, I've tried to tidy up some of the Gaelic here, and also add in a little more about the background of the clan's name. Genetic studies carried out by the University of London now seem to show that Tormod and Torcuill were not actually brothers, but two chieftains, one of Celtic origin (Torcull?), and one of Scandinavian origin (Tormod?), who decided to form an alliance about 1000 years ago. They would have invented the story of the founding of the clan by "Leod" to "prove" they were actually cousins, if not quite brothers. More about this is available on various Clan MacLeod websites, and of course, as with so much else in history, how we interpret the evidence will largely be conditioned by what we want to believe! Le gach deagh dhùrachd, C. Macleòid, 19th June 2006

[edit] Chieftans

Who is the next-in-line Chief of MacLeods?--Cheif 22:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crests and Tartans

This article shows pictures of two tartans, identifying them as belonging to either the Harris or Lewis sides of the family. It's my impression that the blue-green one is actually the hunting tartan, and the yellow-black one is the dress tartan; I've always been told there is another tartan that is like the one I know as the hunting tartan, but more brown, and referred to as 'antiquated'. Does anyone else know more about this?

Cheers

Iain Joncomelately_{Come over} 18:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I've had a quick look around t'internet and found a few links suggesting that both names are in uasge, as well as a variety of others. Do people feel that the tartan bit should be modified slightly to promote the idea that any clansman can wear the majority of the tartans?

clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk

tartan shop

Iain Joncomelately_{Come over} 18:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Hold Fast"

FYI - the motto on the Harris crest is not, in fact, Norwegian or old norse. It's English, either middle or current vernacular. The idiom is still used in both construction and sailing, and the expression doesn't follow Norwegian linguistic norms. I'd suggest that this portion of the article be fact-checked, and maybe removed. I'd say the same about some of the other stuff that could use little more referencing, since it seems that there are a few statements here that aren't easily confirmed. Caspiankilkelly 17:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, info found on Wikipedia is only a good as its references/sources.. If you can find a reference proving it's Middle English, or whatever, put it in the article.--Celtus 05:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)