Talk:Cinderella (telefilms)

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Contents 1 Which version is the song list from? 2 Avoidance of controversy 3 Robert Penn 4 the eople that star in the musical is 5 Song list and singers 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Cind 1957.jpg 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Cind 1997.jpg 8 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Which version is the song list from?

Can someone verify which version of this musical the song list in this article was taken from? I know it can't be the 1997 (Brandy) version because it doesn't include the songs from other R&H musicals that were added to that version. However, I couldn't confirm if the song list was from the 1957 (Julie Andrews) version or the 1965 (Lesley Ann Warren) version. --RBBrittain 01:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the track listing for Sony-Columbia SK 60889, "Original Television Broadcast Soundtrack" (1957, Julie Andrews) is:

1. Overture
2. In My Own Little Corner
3. The Prince Is Giving A Ball
4. Royal Dressing Room Scene
5. In My Own Little Corner II.aiff
6. Impossible; It's Possible.aiff
7. Gavotte
8. Ten Minutes
9. Stepsisters' Lament
10. Waltz for a Ball
11. Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful?
12. When You're Driving Through the Moonlight
13. A Lovely Night
14. The Search
15. The Wedding

BONUS TRACKS

1. Mother & Daughter March
2. In My Own Little Corner
3. Waltz for a Ball
4. A Lovely Night

The track listing for Sony Broadway SK 53538, "The 1965 CBS Television Production of Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella (Lesley Anne Warren) is:

1. Overture
2. Loneliness Of Evening
3. Cinderella March
4. In My Own Little Corner
5. The Prince Is Giving A Ball
6. Impossible!; It's Impossible
7. Gavotte
8. Ten Minutes Ago
9. Stepsisters' Lament
10. Waltz For A Ball
11. Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful
12. When You're Driving Through The Moonlight/A Lovely Night (Reprise)
13. Finale

Dpbsmith (talk) 01:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Since a comparison of the two lists (as well as another note from the R&H website that "Loneliness Of Evening" was added in 1965) makes it clear that the list is from the original 1957 version, I will add that to the article. --RBBrittain 01:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Avoidance of controversy

By the way, surely I'm not the only one who has noticed that although Cinderella was billed as being an authentic Rodgers and Hammerstein musical that just happened to be produced on television instead of on Broadway...

...nevertheless, the R&H Broadway musicals were never pure fluff and frivolity. They tended to deal with serious themes in a serious way; You'd Got To Be Talk elicited negative audience reaction during the Boston tryouts of South Pacific, Oklahoma and Carousel had portions that were quite dark in tone, and several of them edged up to the topic of race prejudice. Sexuality is not too far from the surface (when Nellie Forbush was saying she was going to "wash that man right out of my hair" what, exactly, was she washing, and out of what hair?)

In sharp contrast, Cinderella has not the slightest trace of any serious theme that I can detect, nor the faintest hint of sexuality.

Another observation is that "Cinderella's" reference does not really appear to be to the Perrault story but, well, to the Disney version. When they start singing about "Fol-de-rol and fiddle-de-dee" surely I'm not the only person who thinks "Why didn't they just come right out and say 'Bibbidy-bobbidi-boo?'" Dpbsmith (talk) 01:46, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Penn

I removed Robert Penn, thinking there was no such character as "Lionel." I put him back upon seeing he was billed as the Town Crier per IMDB. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057950/) If it turns out his name was Lionel in that production, I hereby apologize in advance. :) -- RayBirks 04:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the eople that star in the musical is

I DONT KNOW —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.117.145.194 (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

What's an "eople"? -- 12.116.162.162 20:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Song list and singers

I changed the name of the singer for "Falling in Love With Love". It is sung by the Stepmother--played by Bernadette Peters, to her 2 daughters, who sing in the last few lines. Ref: [[1]], and, I admit, original research.JeanColumbia 16:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cind 1957.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cind 1997.jpg

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this is a big fat lie nd no on e knows waht they are talking about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.184.246.158 (talk) 19:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)