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[edit] Removed text
I have removed the recently added section: Possible Health Effects because it seems to be making a POV argument without any attribution -- as far as can be told from the article, it could be someone's speculation. I think it points to a useful area for expanding the article, but it needs referencing, NPOV, and encyclopedic style revisions.
The text I removed follows: -Rholton 13:54, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Chloramine is essentially a chemical compound which slowly degrades to chlorine. An argument could be made that it poses greater dangers to humans than the standard chlorinated water treatment.
The argument goes thus: Chlorine dissolved in water is dissipated as it reacts with organic matter in the water and also when air displaces it from solution. With Chloramine we have a stable compound that is being ingested intact into the human body, to breakdown to chlorine within the human body.
The fact that special tubing replacements are recommended for devices that are being switched from chlorinated water to chloramine should be indicative of a potential problem. Chlorine being one of the most powerful oxidizing agents on earth, we essentially are allowing a compound that generates chlorine be introduced into our bodies. Since one of the main water storage sites in our bodies is the bladder, one could suspect that if there is going to be a health problem with chloramine it would first be noticed with higher bladder cancer rates.
[edit] References for health complaints
Here's a link to an article about people who had health complaints after their city converted to chloramine: http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/2004/2004_12_15.chloramine.shtml Jeff Fenstermacher 17:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Here's a link to the peer-reviewed manuscript documenting our investigation of the above-referenced health complaints: http://www.ehjournal.net/content/5/1/18 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JMWeintraub (talk • contribs) .
[edit] "Chloromine"
You might want to add something about chloromine as there is common confusion about this bleaching / photographic product in many net articles on the subject of water treatment for both brewing and aquariums. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.18.27.149 (talk • contribs) .
- What exactly is "chloromine"? As far as I can tell it's just a misspelling of chloramine. —Keenan Pepper 02:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
Seems to me that after a whole section on chloramine use as public water treatment, then saying under Safety the one-line "NH2Cl is toxic", requires a greater explanation. If NH2Cl is toxic, why is it safe to use in public water systems? - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 21:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Toxicity is relavent to concentration, and there is debate about it's safety for use in public water systems. I agree that more info is need on NH2Cl toxicity. But let's not be so obtuse about why it's not there.James.folsom 22:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Organic chloramines"
There are other chloramines than monochloramine/inorganic chloramine. Someone needs to decide if the article is to include organic chloramines. I'm guessing it shouldn't, and so the title should be Monochloramine or inorganic chloramine.James.folsom 22:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Can you give examples? Physchim62 (talk) 23:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- HClO can react with any amino group turning whatever compound that bears said amino group into a chloramine. This article seems to be intended to cover only monochloramine which is a specific chloramine. Chloramine is a category of compounds. I added some info about this chemistry here hypochlorous acid. James.folsom 22:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Degrading
Anyone here know how long Chloramine in tap water takes to degrade? It's a battle for millions of aquarium owners as Chlorine takes 24 hours aerated to degrade. So I was wondering if Chloramine can be removed in a similar manner even if it takes far longer? Would be useful information to add to the main page perhaps? --Quatermass 08:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Flavor
When they switched to chlorimine in the San Francisco Bay Area, my first clue that something had changed was a really strong chlorine-like smell. I think the idea that chlorimine tastes better than chlorine is obviated by the fact that you end up with a larger concentration of it coming out of the tap. -- Doom 01:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
