Talk:Chihuahua (dog)

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Talk Archive 1

Contents 1 Lead needs to be written 2 Current lead image 2.1 Choice of photos 3 Photo Choice 4 Picture Option 4.1 Which of the three proposed photos? 5 Badly written paragraph; possible misinformation? 6 Average Lifespan? 7 need help!

[edit] Lead needs to be written

We all should take a crack at writing a proper WP:LEAD for the article. It's too barren at the top with the one sentence. --David Shankbone 20:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Current lead image

Is not very good. The colours distract from the general head/face shape of the animal, which in any case doesn't appear to closely conform to the breed standard. Also, the penis is really distracting. All in all, a different photo would be much better. Exploding Boy (talk) 18:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think anyone else is distracted by the dog penis; I mean, come on. I think the rest of the issue is a question of cropping. The dog is very much the breed standard, indeed comes from a line of champions (AKC-registered Chihuahua, Registration #TR02707904, bred by Kandis Jatko and whelped 1/11/2005). --David Shankbone 20:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it's an issue of colouration, as I said. Plus the photo just isn't that great. There was a much better lead photo previously; what happened to that one? Exploding Boy (talk) 22:32, 28 February 2008 (UT) They are also very cute.

In fact, on second look, there were a lot of photos here before and nearly all seem to have been replaced. What's going on? Exploding Boy (talk) 06:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Choice of photos

I support the removal of the current photo in the infobox and the use of this photo, ChihuahuaPrue.jpg, in its place. In the current photo the dog's paws are hidden by the grass, its tail is partly hidden, the lighting is uneven, and the poor thing looks like it's taking the pic under duress. In ChihuahuaPrue the paws are visible, as is the tail, the lighting is even, and the dog looks happy -- overall a better pic. Also, I support removing the current contrasting sizes pic and the use of this photo, IMG013biglittledogFX_wb, in its place. The current pic has too many uninvolved items that are distracting, including legs and a blurred passer-by. In IMG013biglittledogFX_wb the only objects are the two dogs whose sizes are being contrasted -- the point of the pic.--72.76.89.177 (talk) 23:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Please note that this user was banned for harassment.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 03:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the proposed image is better than the current one, but ideally it should be a standing profile shot. Exploding Boy (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposed image is much lower resolution than present one. Also, the anonymous IP above has been advocating for the removal of Shankbone's images all across Wikipedia, a motive which should be taken into consideration when deciding this. Cary Bass ^demandez 17:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm in favor of keeping the current "Little man" photo given it's superior resolution and quality. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo Choice

I completely agree with calls to change the photograph shown on this page, which in my personal opinion is just not a very good example of the breed. I would be very happy to ask for permission for us to have a picture of Champion Bramerita Naughty But Nice (Doughnut), which is the best known example of the breed in either long or short coat varieties and is the top winning show dog of all time in the world, so you arent' ever going to get a picture of a better example of a Chihuahua. I'm sure Shelda, her owner would be more than obliging in providing a pic that can be used or giving us permission to use one from her website. Would that be satisfactory to everyone? Crazy-dancing (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

That's going to depend on the quality of the photograph. If we could get a high-quality photo of a notable Chihuahua, that would be great. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 20:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Option

This is the picture I was recommending for use on this page. It shows Champion Bramerita Naughty But Nice, the top winning Chihuahua and show dog of any breed in history (am a bit of a fan). This is a picture from Shelda's own collection and is openly available for use without permission. Crazy-dancing (talk) 10:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Which of the three proposed photos?

Though I still like Shankbone's "Little Man" photo, though I could see how Chihauhau_01_K might be a better lead photo in terms of illustrating breed characteristics. Strictly from an aesthetic standpoint, I like "Little Man" better. Crazy-dancing is also an aesthetically nice picture, especially to illustrate a long-hair; my biggest object with it is the low-resolution. (More and more folks these days are taking advantage of price drops on nice big LCD monitors...) OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 03:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I personally like "Chihauhau_01_K", although I agree its a little ordinary and theres not as much aesthetic appeal. The "little man" picture I believe is distracting. For me personally, its in the ears, which don't look standard to me. But perhaps thats just me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.149.189 (talk) 16:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Badly written paragraph; possible misinformation?

The below paragraph is found in the Chihuahua page, and I believe it needs editing and verification, at best, but more than likely should just be deleted. I don't have a Wikipedia account, so I can't do it myself, but maybe someone might be able to do so.

For one thing, the grammar is incorrect, and there are some inappropriate usage of capital letters. Plus, there are some spelling errors. While doing a quick Google search, I couldn't find any information that points to all tea cup Chihuahuas as suffering from Hydrocephalus, which is what this paragraph implies.

"The Very small size dog called the tea cup in fact suffers from Hydrocephalus (Water head), where the blockage of CSF outflow in the ventricles or in the subarachnoid space over the brain. The dome of the head is larger in size and the eyes are also squint showing outwards. This is caused by the incorrect pressure on the brain. The dome of the head is normally larger than the normal Chihuahua. They normally have a tendency of having seizures. Many breeders do not know of this. It is commonly found in the Chuhuahua,Toy Pom and very small breeds of dogs."

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.120.255 (talk) 21:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Did the best I could from a copyediting standpoint, but I don't think I've ever even met a chihuahua, so someone may want to still evaluate this stuff for accuracy. Chaoticfluffy (talk) 19:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Average Lifespan?

It says the average lifespan is 8-22 years.. With a gap of 14 years, this does not seem like an "average" at all, but rather a range. SousaFan88 (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] need help!

i have a chi. he is a very loving boy, his name is remmy. he is a blk/wh. more blk than wht. short hair. i call him my crazy little bat man..lol!he just goes crazy and runs in circles..this leeds me to my question i can't seem to find anywhere...is this normal for him to always run in circles? he does this when he is happy,playing some times eating..deffinatly when he goes potty and just fore no reason at all. he makes himselfe dizzy!

my other question is how in the world do i potty train this little man????!!!!! i have tried potty pads.(didn't even snif it) also tried that training pee,pee stuff.(OMG!) grossssss! ihave him going out side but only when i take him out every 1/2 hr. to an hr.

Sometimes he will come in just from pooing or peeing and pee or poo on the floor! i even give him a treat after each time he goes pee or poo when we are outside. OH PLEASE HELPE! any ideas? thank you. please email me. c.kennedy35@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.68.8 (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)