Talk:Chiang Kai-shek rifle

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Most of the info I wrote here is sort of copied from the Chinese Article in Wiki, my chinese reading arent really that good, so I just read it briefly and tried to translate the text as good as I can. Sadly there is no picture of the CKS rifle around in the net.... User talk: hanchi 20 March 2007

I'll try finding an old photo of one (so less trouble with copyright nazis) -- 我♥中國 18:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Which rifle was better? 2 Mauser Standard Model? 3 Based on Mauser Standard Modell 4 Fair use rationale for Image:HY1935 bayonet.jpg 5 Slower to reload?

[edit] Which rifle was better?

Which rifle was better? The Hanyang 88 or was it Type 24? Also which rifle was used mostly amongs the NRA troops? I think I should change some info from Hanyang 88 to this Type 24 instead, as this article somehow is a bit too "short". User talk: hanchi 21 March 2007

Definitely this. I think the 88 was more widely used, since so many copies were made before the war, but during the war most of the production was CKS. -- 我♥中國 18:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mauser Standard Model?

What the heck is Mauser Standard Model? I tried to check it out in various websearch but didnt come up much info... Is CKS rifle really based on Mauser Standard Model and not directly copied from Kar98k? Because in the Chinese site, they claim that the rifle is a direct copy of Kar98k. Any expert who knows better than me? Hanchi 5 April 2007

[edit] Based on Mauser Standard Modell

It is based on the Mauser Standard Modell, which is the forerunner of the Kar 98k. If you have seen the photo of the CKS rifle and the Standard Modell, you will notice the bolt handle is straight, different from the Kar 98k which is bent down. Also, the Standard Modell and the CKS rifle has a handguard on the stock, while the Kar 98k doesn't. Go to www.chinesefirearms.com [1](traditional or simplified chinese), where they have information about the CKS rifle, the Mauser Standard Modell and the Kar 98k. This web even has a special passage about the CKS rifle.

By the way, because there are not a lot of Mauser Standard Modells in this world, it is normal to get less info. about this Standard Modell. One thing I am quite sure about this Standard Modell is that the quality of it is the best of all Mauser rifles, and a lot of collectors want that gun.

No wonder why there arent much surviving examples of CKS rifles or similar to that rifle around this world anymore. I am kind of surprised that the American gun collectors didnt managed to get these rifles. Anyways thanks for clearing it up! Hanchi 6 April 2007

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HY1935 bayonet.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slower to reload?

Seeing as the Type 24/Zhongzheng and the Japanese Arisaka both reload in exactly the same manner (5-round stripper clips, and the clips themselves are near-identical too), I would think that there would be little if any difference in reloading time. 71.203.209.0 (talk) 05:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)