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Y Done* Find map showing River Medway and Dockyard (contour lines?) Y Done* Revise the structure- the title is Chatham Dockyard- not Forts defending Chatham Dockyard. Y Done* Revise history using Official Guidebook p29-31 Highlight firsts and achievements of dockyard. Y Done* A description of the 32 historical significant buildings needs to be place here or on the companion site Chatham Historic Dockyard. Citations/references ClemRutter 21:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Y Done* Find map showing defences (Great Lines, etc) Tweak material about Forts so ties in with each Fort's own article (where exists). Create articles about Forts where don't exist? Tie all to List of Castles (& Thames forts?)

Contents 1 Wikilinking the people in the end of the article 2 Expanding this article 3 Chatham Dockyard Oral History Project 4 Importance rating

[edit] Wikilinking the people in the end of the article

Someone asked if the people near the end of the article (Sir Edward Gregory, Captain Charles Cunningham, Captain J M Lewes, Sir Charles Bullen) should really be wikilinked. I'm not sure if they do or not, I don't know much about the topic. I wikilinked them because I assumed some of them might already have articles on them (as other's I linked did). The questioner said that Sir Charles Bullen has a good biography findable via Google. I consider that suggests he is probably worth an article in Wikipedia. The questioner considered the presence of the information findable via google as a reason not to make a wikipedia article, but Wikipedia is more accessable and permanant(due to it's free content nature) so even making use of the site to create a wikipedia article would be worthwhile. I guess my general opinion is to leave the links in, as we are not running out of space yet. ;-) JesseW 02:52, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Expanding this article

This could do with expansion, especially about the dockyard at the time of the Napoleonic wars. Marc Isambard Brunel built steam-powered sawmills, parts of which survive. Indeed all the articles about the British Naval Dockyards could do with expansion for this period. See Portsmouth Block Mills for what might be possible. When I get a minute I will add something. Apwoolrich 08:48, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Chatham Dockyard Oral History Project

I am currently conducting an oral history study of Chatham Dockyard and have set up my own website. I wonder if it would be suitable for inclusion on this part of Wikipedia? http://chathamdockyard.net.

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Chatham Dockyard Oral History Project 12:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance rating

Can I query this judgement. The spec says 'High:Subject contributes a depth of knowledge'.

• As the economic driver of North Kent for 400+ years.
• As the cause of the depletion of the wealden old forest.
• As the cause of the last successful incursion of a foreign force onto the British Mainland.
• As the site of the construction of Nelson's flagship- the place where Drake learned to sail.
• The site of the first major iron ship HMS Warrior.
• A site with the prototype structure for all railway termini.
• A site where the first Union Flag was sewn.
• First sea launched aircraft of HMS Africa.
• Site displaying all the Georgian and Victorian industrial crafts- spawning a plethora of independant cratsmen and workshops, providing the industial base needed for aircraft building et c.

ClemRutter 21:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

sorry are you saying it should receive a higher rating within "Wiki Project Kent" or "Wiki Project Military History" - both projects have their own importance scale. IMHO WW2 and Kent would be "high" or "top" within their respective projects. While the list above is true, in the big scheme of things, the question is how important it is within that project, for example, WP:Kent is relatively new and hasn't got far yet (ie getting key articles up to GA or even FA status) so ...... Pickle 03:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

just opening a dialogue on Wiki Project Kent. I always am concerned that the 'Darling Buds of May' POV pervades and work on Kent, and the 'White Heat of Technology' POV needs to be put. We have a county 1.5 times bigger than Luxembourg and within it a complex economy- but how is that presented 'Garden of England'- not the 'Birthplace of Portland Cement'. HM Chatham being MOD, has been shrouded in secrecy- so I think that classifying higher would lead to balance ClemRutter 09:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

a lot of the maps that jackyr: asks for are published in Keith Gulvins, Fort Amherst brief History and Guide- credited to Medway Military Research Group (undated but after 1982). They may agree to a CC attribution licence.

ClemRutter 09:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thats a good point, and i tend to agree with you. I by no means want to make out Kent is some kind of idyllic rural paradise only, but in the bigger scheme of things, at the current point of time, we've not got beyond the big towns/cities and Kent article. I'll up rate it to a mid rating ;) Pickle 17:09, 13 April 2007 (UTC)