Talk:Charice Pempengco

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This article was nominated for deletion on 29 December 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Aks2007 (talk) 07:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC) Added external link to Charice Pempengco's singing performance on The Ellen Degeneres show on December 19, 2007. Also added Charice's photo.

Pempengco has better photos. Maybe someone can find one where she looks more formal. Thanks.Doctorqui (talk) 07:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Editing is better than deleting a whole article 2 WPPhilippines importance changed to LOW 3 TV Networks 4 Peacock template 5 Performances

[edit] Editing is better than deleting a whole article

This article was nominated for deletion. I think its better to edit it than delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.101.10.81 (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WPPhilippines importance changed to LOW

Although I am a fan of Charice Pempengco, I don't think she is worthy (yet) of an entry in a 10,000-article Philippine Encyclopedia. She needs to release a solo album to make it MID. Starczamora (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Not MID although she can release an album. Low only. --Efe (talk) 07:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TV Networks

myx is apparently owned by ABS-CBN (according to the WP entry under "myx"). So why did you remove the entry of ABS-CBN? Santoki (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

They're different channels. It's important to distinguish what channels they first aired; not all of the ABS-CBN produced programs were aired on their mother station of ABS-CBN. --Howard the Duck 06:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

well, the list I wrote contained the different channels as the second thing mentioned. I don't know why you want to change it now but if you'd like to have the same syntax for all entries to that list then please go ahead and change all other entries, too. I don't think it makes sense to have some entries with one syntax and then other ones with yet another one. Santoki (talk) 08:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I also find it interesting that you were on the front for deletion of this article. What makes you want to edit now, all of a sudden? Santoki (talk) 08:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

The syntax wasn't applied consistently anyway (see reply on my talk page).

And since this article was saved better make sure it's edited in compliance to standards. I may resubmit this again (but after 1.5 years) for deletion if she fails the notability test by that time. The notability is flimsy at best (all of her "TV appearances" in the Philippines were on ABS-CBN and its stations and probably appeared on only one scene/production number, while her TV appearances outside the Philippines were sporadic, making me not "sold" on the overly popular image ABS-CBN projects). --Howard the Duck 08:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't care about ABS-CBN or whatever "image" you're mentioning. I'm not from the Philippines. I personally believe that Ch. P. fulfills the notability for WP to have an article of her own. That's why I'm editing it. If you believe otherwise, well, then go ahead and resubmit. Meanwhile there are tons of other articles out there that need improvement, additional info, references etc. Santoki (talk) 08:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about the article for now, if she becomes really popular then I might reconsider; in fact after Christmas it seems ABS-CBN has cut down on her appearances and commercials. We'll see in the long run. --Howard the Duck 08:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not worried. And time will show, that's correct. Santoki (talk) 08:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Why is this article in the English Encyclopedia but not any of the native Philippine language encyclopedias? Charice Pempengco is a Filipina, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.217.82 (talk) 19:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

That is because there are more Filipino Wikipedians who prefer writing in English than in Tagalog (because "Written Tagalog" is not much taught in schools). Starczamora (talk) 19:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Cebuanos are more prolific writers, I think. The Cebuano wikipedia is a lot bigger than the Tagalog Wikipedia. Also, for your question, it seems that Charise isn't that as notable as ABS-CBN wants her to be, for now. --Howard the Duck 08:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...is Charice Tagalog or Cebuano? And yes, that does explain why it's not on native Philippine encyclopedias.--69.234.191.141 (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peacock template

I added the peacock template because the use of words are overly-praising. Remember that Wikipedia is an factual encyclopedia, not a fan site. Thanks! Starczamora (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Tag removed. This article is very very short so it must have been better if you just removed those overly written passages. --Efe (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Performances

Why does this article seem to include a paragraph about every performance Charice has done? This is an encyclopedia article, not a fansite or promotional site. Just a few important performances, at most, should be included. I tried reducing the performance listing, but User:Coolwhiz has been slowly putting then back across the last day. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)