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[edit] Triva Section and Copy & pasted text

User:COMPFUNK2 recently added a template that warns against using trivia sections and links to Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections. I moved some of the biographical trivia into the biography section and re-wrote a part of the biography section that was far too similar to the text in the linked source. User:CathBellFan reverted many of the these changes. Personally, I think both my changes and COMPFUNK2's changes improved the article, but instead of just reverting it without discussion, I'd like all interested parties to discuss the issue here. I did replace my text that avoided the copyright violation from the linked source. Enuja 23:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categoization of Ms. Bell

I'm inclined to think this woman's not an "Iranian woman" in the classic sense. Yes, she has an Iranian mother, but she has no ties to Iran otherwise - no education there, no citizenship, etc. I'm removing here from the Iranian categories and from the List of Iranian women as a result. If anyone wants to discuss, feel free! Sidatio 23:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Why remove her from Category:Iranian-Americans and not Category:Scottish-Americans, especially as she was raised by her mother? Also, if she's not even going to be categorized as an Iranian-American, the lead section probably shouldn't describe her as an Iranian-American actress. Personally, I think the best representation would be to take the Iranian-American bit about of the lead, remove her from the list of Iranian women (it's not even Iranian Americans), and leave her in Cat:Iranian American. I have no opinion about her presence in Category:British Iranians. The article states that she is fluent in Farsi, and she is featured in the info-box at Iranian American so she certainly seems to fit the category of 2nd generation Iranian-American to me. Enuja 01:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
You know, that makes a great deal of sense. It could be said she's a 2nd generation British-Iranian-American, but I am NOT about to create a category for that. At least it's not like trying to figure out Tiger Woods' place in nationality, right? Sidatio 02:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I changed the lead to "American actress" instead of "Scottish American." Enuja 03:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I added the part about Scottish-American because, as a citizen of the Crown, her lineage is derived paternally. Of course, it's not important - just thought I'd say why. Either way is good - unless, of course, she's a British-American dual citizen. Wow. Lineage can be a pain! Sidatio 03:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
She's a naturalized U.S. citizen. Enuja 03:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Presumably you can provide a source for that info? --90.210.214.61 (talk) 12:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

She should be considered Iranian-American. In designations like that, the first descriptor represents the ethnic heritage while the second represents the nationality/citizenship. Her current citizenship is American and her heritage is part Iranian. Therefore, she should be considered Iranian-American. Just because she's never been to Iran doesnt make her not of Iranian descent. Many people are considered of certain ethnic groups despite not having a good understanding of the cultural norms of that group. Bell actually speaks Farsi and speaks it fluently, so that makes her more of a candidate to be identified with Iranian rather than others whom do not even speak their native ethnic languages. 161.185.1.100 (talk) 20:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


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