User talk:Beakymouse

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OK, someone had cleaned up your marine connection article - do you have any sources for it? mentions in newspaper articles? that sort of thing?

I've just included two, a link to the European Cetacean Society and to a publication that we did. I will be more external links and references as I expand the page and would greatly appreciate your patience as this is my first wiki page and I'm still learning. Beakymouse (talk) 11:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 soliciting for donations 2 = soliciting for donations 3 Help Desk Question 4 Davina the Dolphin

[edit] soliciting for donations

I've explained this in the edit summaries over and over and over again - you cannot solicit on wikipedia for members, supporters or ask for donations - it is not allowed, it is prohibited. If you continue to ask for donations, solicit for support or members, this account will be blocked as a spammer. If you add this material again you will be blocked. --Fredrick day (talk) 23:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] = soliciting for donations

Fedrick day, I'm sorry, I must have somehow obviously misunderstood you. I understand that it's improper to ask for donations; but I thought asking for members to contribute to our work by learning more about what we do by visiting our website, etc; would not be a problem. Must be either I'm very green or really dense. Could you please sincerely explain the difference to me as I'm having trouble following your point although you've made it numerous times. What can I do, ask them to join us, learn more about these matters that are killing the dolphins, ask them to adopt a dolphin to save one? I really don't know. And no, until I get an explaination about what's gone wrong I will not repost what you removed. I don't want this valuable charity's acct deleted, I'm trying to help them and I'm doing this off my own back for free!

Honestly, our only motivation is to educate people and get them to join our charity so that we can better assist in saving the cetaceans; we're not in this to make money, we can't we're non-profit.

Please get back to me about this if you could. And finally, have I added enough references and 3rd party sources so as to be considered a noteworthy page and thus have that box removed? I do intend to add more references, as that is what we're all about, advocacy and education, but meanwhile I don't want to end up with a deleted acct. 00:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Beakymouse (talk)

Basically you cannot make any direct appeal of any type - if you find yourself writing anything for the article that includes the word you, it's wrong - articles are meant to be factual independent accounts of a subject. I'll take a look at the referencing tomorrow if I get a chance (or just ask over at the help desk, they should be able to help). --Fredrick day (talk) 00:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

==Right, in reading what you've just said over again; what you mean is that I can only give the facts - an impersonal view about what Marine Connection does, and not ask them to join us, or support us or donate any money. Like I said, we never wanted their money, we only wanted there support -we wanted to educate them about these important matters so as to help the cetcaesns. Do I have it right now? There's still something that confuses me thogh as it seems to me that you've taken out more text than was necessary in that it was based on information only. Please do give me a chance and do not delete this account. Beakymouse (talk) 00:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm just an editor, I don't do the deleting - an administrator does that. I removed various things - for examples, you cannot put a copyright notice and once you add something to the page, it's licensed under what is called the GFDL, you can a link to it on the bottom of most pages. Right, I have to hit the sack. --Fredrick day (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh you also seem to be adding HTML code to pages - this doesn't work on wikipedia. --Fredrick day (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help Desk Question

Hello Beakymouse. I saw your question at the help desk and wanted to provide you with some feedback. First of all thank you for contributing to Wikipedia.

There are a couple of issues with the Marine Connection's page.

• It appears that you might have a conflict of interest as the main contributer to the page. Please see the guidelines here.

• Also, please read this as it might also give you some guidance.

• The main problem that your article will encounter will be the notability guidelines. There needs to be independent third party sources that help assert the notability.

Let me see what I can find and I will help with the article. Cheers Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 16:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gtstricky. At least you've given me something to go on. I'll put in some more citations and read over the issues you told me about. Cheers. Beakymouse (talk) 16:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Beakymouse (talk) 12:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)==Copyright problems==

Hello. Concerning your contribution, East Sussex WRAS, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material without the permission of the author. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from [1]. As a copyright violation, East Sussex WRAS appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. East Sussex WRAS has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. For text material, please consider rewriting the content and citing the source, provided that it is credible.

If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:

• If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at Talk:East Sussex WRAS and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
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• If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:East Sussex WRAS.

However, for text content, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia.

Beakymouse (talk) 02:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Please see my discussion page where I explained to you that I do indeed have permission from WRAS to use the exact text from their website, and any of the photos or videos I want. However, over the next day or two I was going to attempt to edit it myself to make the text read better. If you want me to supply you with proof that I have permission to use the exact text off the WRAS website, then please let me know, and please be gracious enough to allow me a couple of days to get an email from them as they are extremely busy rescuing animals.Beakymouse (talk) 02:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I've now re-written this entire article in my own words and have uploaded it along with appropiate references and source materials.Beakymouse (talk) 15:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Assigned article to appropiate category: Charitys: Animal welfare organizations Beakymouse (talk) 12:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Davina the Dolphin

Thanks for adding info but the tagger's complaint about Davina the Dolphin is not that she doesn't trust the many external links but that the various statements aren't related to a source. I'll do an example reference to show you what to do if you feel so inclined. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 15:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I see what you mean. The statements I made needed to be supported by facts from reference sources using superscripts, etc, the way you just did. I'll see what I can do over the next couple of days. Any help is greatly appreciated.Beakymouse (talk) 15:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)