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[edit] outdated info

BearShare v6 has NOT been tested by the links that are in this article. Updated info. --98.197.123.63 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] False Positive

According to the 'false-positive' alert from both Microsoft's Anti-Spyware and Computer Associates Pest Patrol, 'BearShare Software Bundler' installs spyware, adware and the like even if you only install the free 'Lite' version. This legitimate vendor released 'Lite' version doesn't contain any spyware, adware, bundleware and the like but has slightly reduced functionality.

    • Correct - Tvaughn05 00:17, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
      • How would you term When-U-Save that comes with the free version? --Dakota ~ ε 04:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

No mention of the spyware bearshare installs in this article, wtf? Cews 16:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Truly these anti-spyware products are reporting false positives based on far, far older versions, as the products currently bundled with the "Sponsored" version of BearShare are adware, not spyware. Both the Pro and Lite versions do not bundle any addon-ware, spy or ad! The basis of these claims of spyware are from dated sources, as are the false positive reports from the distant past and have not been updated in the recognition databases.

whenu is spyware. It is displayed also on the spyware page. specially with bearshare. whenu sends browsing information of the user to a server. This counts as spyware in my opinion.
Concur, it now comes with Zango by 180solutions.
…and now it doesn't. The new BearShare 6 is a different package entirely, based heavily on iMesh. You are offered a google toolbar which you can turn down. I think they dropped Zango from the 5.2 versions after they noticed how people reacted to it, as well as the spectacle of Zango/180solutions' high-profile problems with the FTC and a class action suit.
The WhenU adware bundled with earlier versions was not as much of a problem because it was relatively benign and Free Peers deliberately declined to lock it into the program. People could uninstall that adware with no loss of BearShare functionality. It was during the years of the removeable WhenU bundle that the false positive began to appear and annoy users by damaging their BearShare software and downloads even if the WhenU package had been removed or was never installed.
The false positives came from a poorly written signature in the original version of PestPatrol (before they were bought by Microsoft) and some other antispyware packages that used PestPatrol's signatures. The signature matched on completely innocent files like the GPLed Webaliser utility, "webstats" which was included simply so people could see a nicely formatted report on what was uploaded from them. This did not give the community of BearShare users a positive impression of this particular line of antispyware products, especially as the false positive was apparently never corrected.--Aaron Walkhouse 22:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The article is arbitrary

Wikipedia is not for publicity and shouldn´t be written by the developers.....

"With the power of the BearShare network you can listen to and download songs that are 100% legal. Our service is endorsed by the key players in the Music Industry. BearShare 6 allows you to explore and experience the power of the BearShare network where you can access millions of songs and a great music community instantaneously."

Our service?? That paragraph doesn't sound like an encyclopedic entry but more like a copy-paste off their website. As opposed to deleting it, since it's the largest paragraph in the article it should be rewritten with less of an advertising emphasis. I would but I don't know much about BearShare. CharredCoal 05:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Marketing department != developers. I would think developers should at least be "allowed" to correct false statements. Heck, as long as the article is objective, who cares who wrote it? A lot of users are far more subjective and fanboyish than any developer (who requires a half-sane brain for his work) could ever be. --82.141.48.127 20:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legality?

How legal IS bearshare anyway?

As legal as the Internet itself. Only "problem" is that it can be used illegaly.
So if you downlaod a song from their "free list"(with the green disc next to it), is it still legal? Can you be fined, jailed etc? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.236.132.42 (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
It is posted on their faqs page. Yes it is legal. The Bearshare 6 service is 100% legal. (Shadowfire77 04:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] 6.x does not use Gnutella?

Then what they are doing on Gnutella? Are all of those fakes? Some may be but I doubt all of those are fakes. --82.141.48.127 20:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


The 6.x versions still present on gnutella are apparently the 1.x versions of BearFlix, the crippled version of BearShare. So far they appear to be harmless to the network. Aaron Walkhouse 11:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VIRUS

I was just wondering, is bearshare a virus? My sister tells me it is but i dont think its true. thanks

Its description as a "virus" is certainly inaccurate, but these kinds of applications often include other kinds of malware, such as spyware — I would be careful. The article currently states "many users have claimed that the software downloads malicious spyware and adware onto their computer systems," although this is uncited. I have not used the application myself so I wouldn't know.
(PS: Please note that Wikipedia talk pages are intended for discussion for improving the article, not for questions/opinions on the topic) -- intgr #%@! 19:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


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