Talk:Battle of Narva - Battle of the Tannenberg Line (1944)
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[edit] Add?
Could someone include this stuff from the page of Estonian museum of ocupation: http://www.okupatsioon.ee/english/overviews/walter.html
Also the 20.Waffen grenadierdivision der SS (Estonian) division before the start of the Soviet offensive on 24th July:
45th Regiment – Ostubaf Harald Riipalu
- 1st Battalion – Hstuf Paul Maitla
- 2nd Battalion – Hstuf Ludvig Kiisk
- 3rd Battalion was still in the process of forming
46th Regiment – Standartenführer Juhan Tuuling
- 1st Battalion – Hstuf Heino Rannik
- 2nd Battalion – Stubaf Friedrich Kurg
- 3rd Battalion – Ostuf Arseni Korp. The battalion was based on the 660th Ost Battalion.
47th Regiment – Ostubaf Paul Vent
- 1st Battalion – Stubaf Georg Sooden. The battalion was based on the 659th Ostbattalion.
- 2nd Battalion – Hstubaf Alfons Rebane. The battalion was based on the 658th Ostbattalion
- 3rd Battalion – Hstuf Eduard Hints. Formed from mobilized men and was at this moment just arriving to the front.
Füsilier-Battalion – Hstuf Wallner. He was on 25th July wounded and replaced by Ostuf Oskar Ruut. The latter was killed on 3rd August and then Hstuf Hando Ruus took over. The battalion was based on the “Narva” battalion (Division “Wiking”), but was reinforced with mobilized men.
Artillery regiment – Ostubaf Aleksandr Sobolev.
On February 1, 1944 the Red Army reached the border of Estonia as a part of the great offensive which began on January 14. Field Marshal Walter Model was nominated the leader of the much-suffered Army Group North. His 18. Army had 14 dead tired battalions against the 4 corps of the Soviet 2. Striking army. The Russians crossed the river and stroke several bridgeheads. The troops landed in Meriküla. The decisive attack based on violent fire of 3000 guns and mine throwers began on February 13. On February 13 the improvised Estonian regiment "Tallinn" was let extend into Auvere (Major Richard Rubach). One Estonian battalion destroyed the landed troops (514 were executed from 525) and the remains cut to pieces the assault reached to Narva - Tallinn railway line. The situation was saved. In addition Russians brought the whole corps but in the meantime the Germans had strengthened. The Estonian division also arrived near Narva. On its way one of the battalions (I/45 Hastuf Harald Riipalu) of the division broke the Russian landed forces which had crossed the Lake Lammijärv during February 14 - 16 near Meerapalu. 2000 Russians were destroyed, much loot gained.
On February 24 (!) the counterattack of the Estonian division to break the Russian bridgeheads began. The battalion of Hastuf Rudolf Bruus (II/46) destroyed the bridgehead of Riigiküla. The battalion of Ostubaf Ain - Ervin Meri (I/46) liquidated the bigger bridgehead of Vaasa-Siivertsi-Vepsaküla, where a young Uscha Harald Nugiseks was awarded the Knights Cross as first of the Estonian soldiers. On March 6, the task was fulfilled.
The raged leadership of the Red Army draw 9 corps under Narva against 7 divisions and one brigade of Germans. On March 1, a new aggressive offensive began in the direction of Auvere. The assault was stopped by the 658th battalion of the first Estonian awarded the Knights Cross Major Alfons Rebane and by the 659th. East battalion of Captain Georg Sooden, fighting in the area of Putki-Sirgala surrounded until the counterattack of the Germans. The attacks continued. Only the lying of pressure changed. On March 17, Russians attacked in the direction of the main offensive with the forces of 20 divisions against 3 defensive, but could not break the defence no matter of the mass of the perished. Up to the end of March the Russians had run out of strength: 70,000 men had perished (on the German side 20,000). On April 7, the leadership of the Red Army ordered to go over to defence. Before that the counterattack of the Germans began. The Russian forces on the Auvere bridgehead were destroyed and the remains were let extend to Krivasoo marsh. In the battles during April Russian lost 50,000 men against 20,000 Germans. The huge battle lasted for three months, one of the greatest in the world history of war (!), cost Russians 120,000 fallen and for 40,000 Germans. The part of the Estonian army units could not play decisive part in this giant struggle but the Estonian soldier showed himself among the best volunteers of the world (German, Walloon, and Scandinavian) worthily. Russians barbarized of the defeat, organised many terrorised, bombing attacks towards the towns of Estonia in March, incl. bombing of Tallinn on March 9. In June 1944, because of the strategical problems elsewhere, 5 German incomplete divisions and the Estonian division stayed at the front of Narva, in total 27,000 men. Russians had 2 armies with 205,000 men. The superiority of the fire force was 8-, of the air force 9- and in tanks 3 times. On July 24 the Russians began an attack in the direction of Auvere to surrender the unit of the army of Narva ( III German SS-mounted corps of Obergruppenführer Felix Steiner ). They were stopped by I battalion (Stubaf Paul Maitla) of the 45 regiment (Riipalu) and the fusiliers (previous "Narva") under the leadership of Hatuf Hando Ruus ( Ruus was the only Estonian who was awarded the German Cross-in gold).
The evacuation of Narva was organised and settled on the line of "Tannenberg" in Sinimäed. There were unimaginable hard battles from July 26 - August 10; the regiment of Riipalu defended where the key point lay on Grenadiers which. On July 29, the uplands were lost but fighting against overwhelming majority, Estonians took the uplands back on the next day. There was a Russian division against each Estonian battalion here; still the enemy was destroyed. In the 109 corps of army 255 men survived.102 Russian tanks were destroyed. Riipalu and Maitla were awarded the Knights Cross. On August 10, the command of the red Army stopped the attacks having lost 11 divisions and 2 brigades. By their own data, 12,000 Russians fell in Sinimäed.
[edit] Name
Per our naming guidelines, article should have ONE name, not two. As such I think Battle of Narva (1944) would be best? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 18:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
agree, not that it has 2 names , this article basically covers not only the Battle of Narva and "Tannenbergstellung" but the whole events of the Soviets return to Estonia during the WWII all the way up to Courland. It needs renaming and splitting up into sections and then separate articles regarding each battle...Also, this article has obviously been written by a Dutch guy and more relevant to SS Division Nederland . Is talking about "foreign troops" mostly about the Dutch at the same time completely missing the fact that the Battle of Narva and "Tannenbergstellung" AKA "Sinimägede lahingud" was a last stand in 1944 for thousands of Estonians that had returned from Finnish Army and others that had responded to a general mobilization call made by the last legitimate prime minister of the republic of Estonia in exile to defend Estonia against falling under the Soviet domination once again....etc. Estonians had no interest to serve the germane cause though. As it appears the Germans even had a unit standing by: Apart from the Red Army, the Brigade now also feared actions from their Estonian fellow soldiers. The Estonian volunteers wanted to defend their own country against the Red Army, of course, but now that the German armed forces were pulling back closer and closer to Germany itself, the Estonians were no longer prepared to follow the Brigade. The multinational thought had disappeared and the Commander of the Brigade, Wagner, even kept a Company in reserve to act against the Estonians if necessary, http://www.waffen-ss.nl/nedgesch-e.php --Termer 08:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
PS. "Fighting Around Riga" has also no relevance really unless in case it would belong to the history of SS Division Nederland
Hello, in English this battle is called 'Tannenberg Line', I'm going to create a new name for this and move it.--Termer 01:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Globalization tag
From the edit summaries, I'm guessing that the point of the globalization tag is that the editor wants to see more information about the Soviets in the article. If you can address this issue, please do. Also, whenever you place a tag like this, it's very helpful to other editors if you leave a note on a talk page to explain your concerns, in as much detail as you can. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
