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• Comment I'll throw a few references out quickly from the computer game. Putting in talk as I don't think it's too relevant.

• http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117905468.html?categoryid=28&cs=1
• http://reviews.cnet.com/xbox-games/forgotten-realms-demon-stone/4505-9582_7-31002343.html
• http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=6039

Contents 1 Closing administrator's rationale 1.1 Raw count analysis 1.2 Valid keep arguments 1.3 Discounted keep arguments 1.4 Valid Delete Arguments 1.5 Discounted Delete Arguments 1.6 Summary 2 Merge and Redirect

[edit] Closing administrator's rationale

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[edit] Raw count analysis

• Delete
  • Straight delete

1. Undead warrior (8 edits) <nominator>
2. Eusebeus
3. Gavin.collins (8 edits)
4. EEMIV (3 edits)

• • or merge

1. Percy Snoodle (5 edits)

• Keep
• Straight keep

1. Quasirandom
2. Robbstrd
3. BOZ (8 edits)
4. Poisonink/ 75.134.169.84
5. Shemeska (3 edits)

• • Or merge to Slaad

1. Casliber 2 edits
2. Webwarlock (3 edits)
3. Hobit (4 edits)
4. Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles (7 edits)

• Merge
  • To Slaad

1. ArglebargleIV
2. Craw-daddy (3 edits)
3. Freederick
4. Ig8887
5. Jfire

• Non-participatory

1. SineBot - doing that whole sinebot thing
2. Smcmillan (2 edits) - reverted self
3. Pb30 - delsort

[edit] Valid keep arguments

• a valid third-party source has been provided
• Wikipedia:Five pillars: notability to a real-world audience, plenty of refereces, consistent with a "specialized encyclopedia" concerning fictional topics with importance in the real world.

[edit] Discounted keep arguments

• history behind the character
• character appears in some game
• keep, out of spite
• appeared in more than just one fictional medium and was voiced by a notable actor
• around for a long time and developed by a notable author
  • notability is not inherited

[edit] Valid Delete Arguments

• Fails to meet WP:NOTABILITY
• No valid third-party sources
• orginal research
• No assertion of real-world notability per WP:FICT
• in-universe perspective absent information on development and critical response

[edit] Discounted Delete Arguments

• just describing another game character, just a character
  • demonstrates bias against this type of subject
• stock character
  • A stock character is one which relies heavily on cultural types or stereotypes for their personality, manner of speech, and other characteristics.
• WP:NOT#PLOT
  • article is not essentially a plot summary
• WP:WEASEL
  • maintenance issue, not deletion criteria
• WP:WAF
  • this is a writing-style guide, no deletion criteria here
• possibly dubious claims
  • WP:SOFIXIT
• copyright violation (some of the language sounds like it's straight from a scholarly source)
  • If it sounds good it must be a copyvio? What about try to find the scholarly source and cite it?
• to be a valid third party source, it must discuss real-world history or impact
  • no such requirement exists

[edit] Summary

The Merge !votes outnumbered the keep and delete !votes combined. Merge outcome seems likely to address all valid concerns. Ergo: Merge JERRY ^talk _contribs 08:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge and Redirect

Jerry, thank you for your rational and well thought out comments. I have completed the merge and redirect to Slaad. That article is also up for AfD but I feel it fails to meet the criteria for many of the same reasons you have listed here. Web Warlock (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)