Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peanut Williams

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Pretty good discussion, with a narrow keep consensus.--Kubigula (talk) 16:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peanut Williams

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Minor league player in the lowest of the lowest minor leagues. Nothing in the article to claim notability, even being MVP of the minor minor league isn't that notable. Corvus cornix_talk 21:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Holds several records in the Frontier League as well as the GBL and is thus far more notable than a random member of those minor leagues. Article needs expansion and sourcing, not deletion. - Dravecky (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~~~~Tiptoety ^talk 17:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 18:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 18:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep, based on Player of the Year and All-star appearance. Gsearch isn't giving really great coverage, though. :(--Fabrictramp (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, minor league baseball players are non-notable. If he were a Triple A player and participated in the All Star Game, than that might sway me towards a keep vote, but short season single A are the lowest level of the minor leagues. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 18:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. NN Dreamspy (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep He is playing in the Golden Baseball League. That seems to satisfy WP:ATHLETE... --Pmedema (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  Comment There is no consensus at WP:Baseball as to whether this level of play is a "fully professional league", as required in WP:ATHLETE. The season for the GBL is just 3 months long, and salary levels range from $750 per month to $3000 per month, meaning most players earn well less than $10,000 per year, and some players earn less than $2,500 per year. Some people hold that if you are paid the league is fully professional, while others feel that if you need another job just to pay rent and buy groceries, it's not fully professional.--Fabrictramp (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  Comment Professional - a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs [1]. WP:ATHLETE makes no reference to the amount earned (or what they are going to do with their money). It says "Competitors and coaches who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports" which Golden Baseball League seems to be in the catagory of... and that there is sufficient reference for the player. Here [2] is one of many... --Pmedema (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep: It has already been decided that minor league all stars are notable. Mr. Peanut qualifies. Kinston eagle (talk) 12:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.