Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian The Language

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The result was delete. Singularity 01:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indian The Language

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Unsourced article on supposedly extinct South Asian language. The strange title came about because the author initially made his changes to Indian language [1] until he was challenged for verification from reliable sources. [2] [3] The only "source" that the author(s) have provided is [4], which fails the reliable source guideline completely.

I'm aware that for most unsourced articles we add {{unsourced}} and let them fester wait till someone comes along with the sources. But in this case a claim is being made that an entire language with its own script has existed/is existing - and all the information is unsourced. This is the Porchesia hoax all over again. Thus I urge deletion unless links to detailed write-ups about this "language" from reputable sources are given within five days. (If the outcome of this discussion is "delete", please delete the misleading redirect Ancient Indian language (originally a duplicate of this page), and the accompanying Template:Indianlang infobox too.) Resurgent insurgent 14:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep and Rename - it does appear that this is real, the poor sourcing is just poor sourcing. Should be Indian (language). ←Ben^B4 15:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this Indianádan? ←Ben^B4 15:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm curious to know why you think this appears real. --Kuaichik 04:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete This looks to me like this is Malayalam, except it is written with English letters. The sample text is Malayalam, except it is transcribed using English lettering. I've asked some more Kerala editors to chip in on this Corpx 15:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. While I agree with the "just needs better sources" argument in principle, in this case the lack of sourcing leaves us guessing as to whether this language ever existed. Cap'n Walker 15:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - We are only promoting such hoaxes with elaborate discussions. I've already asked thrice for a reliable source. There isn't a language called "Indian", nor is transliterated Malayalam called so, as far as I know. This article is a genuine hoax, or complete original research.--thunderboltz^(TALK) 17:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete Unsourced nonsense. NawlinWiki 17:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. I know little about languages in India, but even Klingon has its own ISO 639 code. If this were a real language, or even dialect, someone would have very likely created this article long ago. I'm pretty sure this is a hoax. --Targeman 17:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. dubious,. `'Míkka 19:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete hilarious nonsense Tintin 19:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as utter nonsense. Bigdaddy1981 20:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom Harlowraman 23:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I never heard of this one, and I've heard of a lot. The only "Indian language" that I know is the American place names that are inevitably explained as being "from an Indian word meaning". Part of our heritage of Yankee ingenuity, grouping all American Indians into one group. As for India, it has 15 official languages, none of them referred to as "Indian". Mandsford 23:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete as hoax and copy-and-paste of the sources that it cites. --Hnsampat 04:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete There is no language called "Indian"; any Malayalee knows that the language predominantly spoken in Kerala is Malayalam. To say there is a language called "Indian" would be very much like saying that there is a language called "European." --Kuaichik 04:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete probably a hoax, zero sources (not counting a personal website), even says "officially not recognised". AFAIK, there is no simple "Indian language". This looks like a lot of WP:OR to me. Melsaran 11:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as fictitious. FWIW, online sources I have consulted in support of this conclusion include Facts about Dravidian languages, Ethnologue Language Family Trees: Dravidian, and Fu Jen Catholic University "Language Familes" website.--orlady 18:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete - Hoax. Smokizzy (talk) 15:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Author If this article does not follow Wikipedia's policies, then, I, as Princemathewalleppey and as a member of IIHCR, hereby agree to delete this article from Wikipedia. Princemathewalleppey 13:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete - No language known as "Indian". Maybe worthy of WP:BJAODN? :) --vi5in^[talk] 19:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.