Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gwydianthia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 01:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gwydianthia

Gwydianthia (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Likely hoax. No reliable sources. Not notable. Risker 05:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - It lists itself as a Fictional Country, but more importantly, I can't find any reason to call it a notable fictional country such as Middle Earth or something of the sort. Redian (Talk) 06:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, no RS. John Vandenberg 06:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I assume by "RS" you mean reliable sources. That's a good reason for deletion, but please remember that article authors may not be familiar with our jargon. It's better for all concerned if we explain ourselves without reverting to initialisms like "RS" or "NN" or "POV" or any of the like. fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 06:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete Nonsense and obvious hoax. Tagged as G1. Masaruemoto 06:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this article should be deleted, for the reasons Redian (talk · contribs) mentions. However, it is a long way from being patent nonsense, and is clearly not a hoax (any more than we should consider Bilbo Baggins a hoax because we probably don't have hobbits in real life). fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 06:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• "Clearly not a hoax"? Prove the article is not a hoax. And don't accuse me of misusing {{db-nonsense}} tags; I know WP:BULLSHIT when I see it. Masaruemoto 06:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You would teach your Grandame to suck Eggs? I'd like to think I wasn't aggressive above, Masaruemoto, and I'll thank you to moderate your tone. Gwydianthia, as I've said, could be described as a hoax only in the same sense that Bilbo Baggins is a hoax — because it doesn't actually exist in meatspace. An article on a fictional subject could only be a hoax if it attempted to convince us the subject was real (e.g. if Bilbo Baggins asserted that he was a real historical figure, one of the chaps who signed the Declaration of Independence, perhaps). The article appears to describe a non-notable entity, and we shouldn't have it. But it's not patent nonsense; it's not even nonsense on stilts. fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 07:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I rather suspect that this is part of a little game relating to the hypothetical king of this fictional country. Whether he is the originator or someone is playing pranks with his name, I have no idea. Risker 07:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete - As Redian said, this country is listed as fictional, and as Risker said, it is not notable. It is also improperly formed - info box not visible at top, no sections, no introductions, improper grammar, etc. The infobox also appears to be one for a real country. anger2headshot 06:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete ?not hoax? ?not nosense? Yeah, okay, lets waste editor's time debating whether or not a fictitious kingdom made up by some guy, without any references or sources should be deleted for reasons a, reason b, or reason c. Better yet, just delete it and lets move on. —Gaff ^ταλκ 07:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - See WP:CSD#G1 with regards to hoaxes and speedy deletion. Cheers. --MZMcBride 07:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Okay, my mistake. Not a speedy. Now lets all spend time chatting about this before we delete it. —Gaff ^ταλκ 07:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete' Breaches WP:OR, WP:V and so looks like a WP:HOAX. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 11:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete/Merge, but quite possibly not a hoax: was mentioned on the TV show How to Start Your Own Country, apparently. See the first revision of the page, dating from December 2006!-h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 12:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • It was "inspired by" the television show. Risker 18:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC
    • It's either some nerd who watched the show and ripped off Danny Wallace's micronation website idea or it's a hoax. Either way, it needs to be deleted completely. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 18:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete the purported author is linked, but is unlikely to be any of the 3 on the disam page linked to. DGG 18:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom as a non-notable hoax. RFerreira 06:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.