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A fact from Altan Khan appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 12 December 2007.

[edit] Not monarch, but a khan, though not a "Great Khan"

What do you mean with "monarch"? For me monarch equals to Khan of Mongolia, which you call "Great Khan". If he wasn't a "Great Khan", then he wasn't a monarch. But he WAS a Khan, a local ruler of Tumet with title "Khan". After him, many local rulers assumed the title "Khan" along the all-Mongolian Khan or "Great Khan". I have to remove "monarch". Gantuya eng (talk) 06:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polyglotic naming

We don't need to show a proper name of a person in all possible languages to show up how many languages we know. Altan Khan is a Mongolian, he has a Mongolian name, that's it. We don't show the name of Peter the Great in Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian, Bantu and so on, do we? Gantuya eng (talk) 03:24, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I take your point, but many, if not most, of the historical records are in Chinese and keeping the Chinese here would make it much easier for readers to scan for his name through Chinese documents. Please let me know here if you still disagree and, if so, why. Best wishes, John Hill (talk) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

There are also Manchu and Tibetan language sources, but you can't write the name in the Manchu. And you can't write it in Tibetan. At the same time, they deleted all the Manchu and Mongolian names from the pages on the Qing Emperors totally sinicising those pages. Why don't you go there and reinsert the Manchu names? Gantuya eng (talk) 04:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

No Chinese name is written in the pages for Korean and Vietnamese kings. Did the treasurable Chinese sources fail to write about them? Gantuya eng (talk) 07:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)