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[edit] Gary Gygax publisher of Dragon Magazine

there is some info on the talk page regarding the claim to him being publisher of the magazine during the time mentioned in the article. your help on that talk page to format it into proper citations and such would be very helpful. you may have seen this already in your watchlist, but i wanted to make sure you were notified in order to make this article better and to figure out how to cite this mess of facts. thanks. shadzar-talk 04:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 'S' missing from pangram in font samples

A minor correction for your otherwise very nice font sample images, e.g., Font_Sample_-_Liberation_Sans.svg: there's a slight (but common) mistake in your quotation of the famous jumping fox pangram, with the result that it lacks an 's'. The more correct version has "jumps" rather than "jumped". Just thought you might like to make that minor fix. Best regards. Gahs (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Evanier

Alan De Smet,

My contribution to the Mark Evanier Wikipedia page was deleted. It read as follows:

==Quotes== Following up on the clever, truly all-ages Shrek might have been an impossibility, so I can’t judge the Dark Horse comic sequel too harshly. However, this take on the characters by renowned Groo co-writer Mark Evanier and unfamiliar (to me) artists Bachs and Fernandez is just a shallow echo of the funny, pop-culture laden movie that spawned the culture. Template:Http://www.thefourthrail.com/reviews/snapjudgments/092903/snapshots.shtml

Please advise if it was improperly formatted or if you deleted it for some other reason.

Strange as night (talk) 02:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)Strange as nightStrange as night (talk) 02:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

My reply appears at User_talk:Strange_as_night. — Alan De Smet | Talk 23:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi and thank you for responding.

My understanding is that quotes do not come from the subject person, rather from those making statements or observations about him or her. I will refer you to only two but there are several others if you need me to send them as well. These quotes are from the Jack Kirby Wikipedia page.

Quotes Al Williamson: "If you told me or most of my buddies to draw fifty spaceships, they'd all look like they were built in the same plant. If Jack drew fifty spaceships, they'd look like they were built by fifty different alien races."[30] Joe Simon: "My favorite artist was Lou Fine. He was also Jack Kirby's favorite artist. I know that Jack was a fan of and greatly influenced by Fine’s work."[31] [edit] Selected bibliography

And from the Steve Ditko Wikipedia page:

Quotes [edit] Ditko On artist Mort Meskin: "Meskin was fabulous, I couldn't believe the ease with which he drew: strong compositions, loose pencils, yet complete; detail without clutter. I loved his stuff".[17] Excerpt from Comic Fan #2, Summer 1965, Ditko interview conducted by mail with Gary Martin; punctuation verbatim: GARY - Who originated Spider-Man? STEVE - Stan Lee thought the name up. I did costume, web gimmick on wrist & spider signal. GARY - Would you enjoy continuing on him? STEVE - If nothing better comes along.[18] Voice of Comicdom #4 (April 1965): Comment on this fanzine's reader-poll to determine which "Best Liked" fan strips would continue to be published; punctuation verbatim: “ It seems a shame, since comics themselves have so little variety of stories and styles that you would deliberately restrict your own creative efforts to professional comics shallow range. What is 'Best Liked' by most readers is what they are most familiar in seeing and any policy based on readers likes has to end up with a lot of look-a-like strips. You have a great opportunity to show everyone a whole new range of ideas, unlimited types of stories and styles---why FLUB it!"[19]

Looking forward to hearing from you. I didn't know whether I could respond from my own page or not so I hope you don't mind that I replied here.

Strange as night (talk) 19:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)strange as nightStrange as night (talk) 19:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Quote sections aren't a formal part of a Wikipedia article. Indeed, they're deadweight. Quotes from third parties about the subject of an article are usually best used as citations to support claims. The quotes themselves aren't really the point, the point is what we learn about the subject. So to take one of the Ditko quotes, it would probably be better as "Frank McLaughlin, art directory at Charlton while Ditko was there, described Ditko as 'very happy-go-lucky guy with a great sense of humor." However, I fret about more than enough Wikipedia articles at the moment, so I'll let the people fretting about Ditko's article do so. Like a Trivia section, which we are supposed to avoid, they persist because they sometimes collect good information that hasn't yet been better organized elsewhere. As to the specific quote you added and I removed, apply the same thinking: what useful information could we add to Evanier's article from it? We do learn that Evanier wrote a particular comic book, but we could cite the book's credits as a better source for that. We learn that Randy Lander doesn't like that particular comic book. Is that really an important fact to include in Evanier's article? I don't think so. — Alan De Smet | Talk 23:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Please refer to the Vince Colletta Wikipedia page for the following and consult with Wikipedia editor Tenebrae if necessary. It would be great if there existed a template or fixed format in Wikipedia that could be followed so it would be more user friendly. I found these quotes while mining the site for something similar to what I put in the Evanier web page. Please examine this and let me know whether what I included was wrong or what Tenebrae has included is wrong. They seem to be exactly the same.

Quotes

Mark Evanier: "In 1970 when Steve Sherman and I met Steve Ditko, he asked us about the new Kirby books that were then about to debut at DC. When we told him Colletta was handling the inking, he winced and said that he would probably not look at the comics. Back when he was working for Marvel, Ditko said he'd pick up the latest issues in the office and always check the credits before taking the comics home. If he found Colletta's name — especially as Kirby's embellisher — he would make a point of putting the comic back, or even in a wastebasket. And he'd make sure Stan saw what he was doing and knew the reason why".[5] Joe Sinnott: "When I penciled the romance stories, I used to tell myself, Vince wrecked what I did." "He would eliminate people from the strip and use silhouettes, everything to cut corners and make the work easier for himself."[1] Len Wein, on what he enjoyed most about working on Luke Cage: "Getting to work with the wonderful George Tuska, before Vinnie Colletta got his hands on the pencils and ruined them".[6]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Strange as night (talkcontribs) 14:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

"Please examine this and let me know whether what I included was wrong or what Tenebrae has included is wrong." Each article and edit on Wikipedia must stand on its own. That another article may have a problem is irrelevant. "They seem to be exactly the same." A few important differences: The quotes about Colletta that you quote above are by respected comic creators, Colletta's peers. In one case it's someone who directly worked with him. The quote about Evanier is from someone I've never heard of, nor can I find evidence that he's someone well qualified to judge Evanier's work. (This might be a case of ignorance, in which case, please let me know about Lander's well known work as either a comic creator or critic.) The quotes about Colletta make specific accusations about Colletta's work and judge the overall body of his work. The quote about Evanier is a trivial review of a single comic book. It doesn't even call out Evanier's contribution for review or commentary. — Alan De Smet | Talk 23:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] why I stopped editting

Thanks for the compliment. Nice to know that the editing I did is approved. I kinda hang around here and there, edit little things. But, I usually just edit discussion pages lately and let the article editors do the work. When I was editing there was lots that kinda got to me. I would rather be on the development team, but the process of becoming a developer is REALLY long. You can read my wiki review here. A Wikipedia Review It might not be so positive. It was written a long time ago. I might take the time read some of the new guidelines and do some minor editing, but times of me writing an article like Gary's is over (I think). ;-) --None-of-the-Above (talk) 21:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nascrag

Thank you for your support of the Nascrag entry on Wikipedia. There was indeed an article in Dragon Magazine that featured Nascrag. It was about half a page, with a number of pictures. Do I need to put that article on-line to cite it? --NascragMan (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

That's not necessary. What is required is enough information that another editor could track it down to validate it. Issue number would be enough. Month, year, and page number would be nice. — Alan De Smet | Talk 06:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Flying_Buffalo_logo.png

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