Talk:Al Rashid

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Contents 1 Leave Saudi Arabia? 2 Ordering 3 NPOV 4 Added book, saying hello 5 Name... 6 Moved from article... 7 Rashidis in Iran 8 Map 9 Images on wikicommons

[edit] Leave Saudi Arabia?

Anybody else out there interested in the history of the Rashidis? I have read that the new King, Abdullah, has a Rashidi mother; does anybody know if this is correct? The writer/social anthropologist Madawi Al Rasheed writes that they had to leave Saudi Arabia after 1975..as her fathers sisters son Prince Faisal bin Musad had assassinated his paternal uncel, King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. I am presently reading the book by Madawi Al Rasheed, does anybody else have a knowledge/opinion about it? Huldra 16:50, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

This is an old comment, but just to clarify; not all the Al Rashid left in 1975. As for King Abdullah, his mother was from the same tribe as Al Rashid (the tribe of Shammar), but she was not from Al Rashid. -- Slacker 05:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ordering

As the article stands now it is quite messy. I propose that everything that happened between 1836 -1921 will go in the "Amir"-section, under the appropriate amir. Somethings should be cut out completely: Eg: "The House of Saud and the House of Rashid, are the two most powerful houses in central Arabia. In the seventeenth century the alliance between the Saudis and the Wahhabi religious sect made them paramount."............. That text is not "at home" in this article, is it? Huldra 01:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

This article contains factual mistakes that are biased against Shia. I removed the most obvious parts of the POV statements. -- Eagle^amn 02:52, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Added book, saying hello

I added book to the bibliography -- it's a survey of the various "Western" explorers, has lots of info re the Rashidis and the Saudis, lots of quotes. May be available to readers when primary sources aren't.

I'm not an expert and I don't speak or read Arabic (I hope to correct that). I'm interested in the roots of Wahabbism and I've been reading English sources for the history of Arabia. I'm going to be putting Doughty through Distributed Proofreaders so that a free e-book will be available. Zora 06:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name...

The name should be Rashid and not Rashidi, the prince (Amir) was known as Ibin Rashid, and the family is called Al-Rashid. I corrected the arabic name, but left the english to be consistent with the article name which should be changed. --DelftUser 18:33, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article...

The total Rasheed Family men & woman alive nearly 400 persons only. I have spent 2 decades on the Shammar tribe tree. I hope I could see somebody do a book on the political role of the tribes in the Arabian peninsula

Turki Faisal Al Rasheed

The above was added to the article by user: Tfrasheed. --DelftUser 18:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rashidis in Iran

Are Iranians with that surname related to the Arabs who bear it?--Anglius 06:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

No, the proper name is Al-Rashid. --DelftUser 19:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I thank you, sir, but they are still somehow related (both descended from the Abbasid dynasty)?--Anglius 22:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No, Al-Rashid decsend from Arab tribes of Najd. I understand your mistake but the man known to history as Al-Rashid is a Caliph and that is not his name but a kind of surname taken on assuming the reigns, meaning the wise.

If you read the article it clearly states that the name comes from the grandfather of the first prince; he would have lived ca. 1800 AD!!--DelftUser 19:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Sir, I appreciate your explanation and hope that I was not wasting any of your time or energy. However, out of curiosity, who are the Persian Rashidis descended from?--Anglius 02:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I apologise if I am correcting you, sir, but I thought that he lived from the mid(or perhaps late)-8th century until the early 9th century. I hope that I am not being impolite, either.--Anglius 03:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I sorry again, for I thought that you meant Harun Al-Rashid.--Anglius 03:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

However, sir, are you aware the Persian ones' ancestry?--Anglius 22:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

No I don't, but I am sure they have nothing to do with Al-Rashid of Ha'il. --DelftUser 09:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I thank you, sir, and I apologise for having bothered you.--Anglius 20:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I was glad to be of service. --DelftUser 15:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Does anybody have a source regarding the map? It seems a bit exaggerated. -- Slacker (talk) 14:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images on wikicommons

Image:Saud and sebhan.jpg Image:Aziz alrasheed.jpg

--DelftUser 08:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)