Template talk:AfDM

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This is the message section from AfD

Isn't this redundant with afdx? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 01:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No. It's used by {{subst:afd}} (formerly {{subst:AfDU}}) to transclude the AfD instructions onto the page, reducing the wikimarkup in the page itself. --ais523 09:59, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Plainlinks 2 Thank goodness someone has done this 3 AFDnote 4 Ambox background color 5 Rescue template integration 6 PAGENAME error 7 Argument change 8 This template needs a better how to use section 9 Wrong link

[edit] Plainlinks

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Change the class attribute from class="boilerplate metadata" to class="boilerplate metadata plainlinks", to hide the external link icons on what are actually internal links. Thanks – Gurch 09:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Y Done Adambro 12:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank goodness someone has done this

At last... Well done. Rich Farmbrough, 09:30 19 May 2007 (GMT).

[edit] AFDnote

{{editprotected}} All of the other deletion templates have a notice on the bottom making it easier to notify the author of deletion. AfDM does not. I have gone and worked up some code that I think will work, based off {{dated prod}}:

<hr /><small><span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=history}} Author(s)]</span> notification template:  <code><nowiki>{{subst:AFDnote|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} ~~~~</small></nowiki>

It would be placed right after the </small> tag. The Evil Spartan 05:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd rather suggest adding

<br />Please consider notifying the [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=history}} author(s)] by placing &#123;&#123;subst:adw&#124;{{FULLPAGENAME}}&#125;&#125; &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; on their talk page(s).

before ''</small>. By the way, we seem to be having quite a few of these templates; perhaps some should be merged? —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ambox background color

{{editprotected}} Can someone set the background color on this template to match {{db-meta}}? Zetawoof_(ζ) 00:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

This should be brought up on Wikipedia talk:Article message boxes or there should be consensus here before this change is made. Cheers. --MZMcBride 04:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rescue template integration

It has been suggested that the current Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron Rescue template be deleted and that it's functionality be integrated into the AFDM template via a parameter to allow articles that are thought to include encyclopedic topics to be flagged for rescue. Please comment on the TfD page. - Fosnez 12:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Specifically, this would mean updating the 'text' parameter to include something like;

{{#if:{{{cleanup|}}}|<br/>One or more editors feels that this article may be valid for inclusion, but has other issues which might result in deletion.<br/>''Please [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}} edit this article] to [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite]] sources, establish [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]], and address other issues listed on the [[Talk:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|talk page]].'' ([[Help:Contents|help]])<includeonly>[[Category:Some category name for pages which are being targeted for rapid cleanup]]</includeonly>}}

Likely along with a link to WP:ARS, WP:ICU, WP:CU, or wherever this all eventually ends up when any merging and renaming gets sorted out. Users would then just update the existing AfDM call on the article to add a '|cleanup=yes' parameter at the end in order to display this additional text. --CBD 13:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I have copied the template and coded the integration into to. Please view the template here and the template in action here (the top two examples). Whats is the process for me to get this integrated into the official AfDM? (The "rescue" paramater will need to be fed through from the AfD template) Fosnez 02:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

See the TfD of {{rescue}}; it seems likely from that that consensus would be against this change. --ais523 17:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

From what I understand of the debate, the flagging of articles that contained encyclopedic topics, but were badly written, was considered to be a good idea, but the main issue was there being a project template on the article page. By adding the same functionality to the AfDM template, we remove this problem, but still say to random readers or the article: "Hey! do you know anything about me? Improve me NOW or I'll be deleted!". I have edited the template I linked to above to remove all reference of the rescue squadron, so that this become a template that is owned by the community but is attended to primarily by the rescue squadron. Please add this code so we can see how it goes, I'm sure a debate will be started, at worst it can be removed, at best we might actually improve wikipedia a bit :-) - Fosnez 00:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAGENAME error

This needs to be "Talk:{{PAGENAME}}", not {{Talk:PAGENAME}}. Milto LOL pia 08:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Y Done -- lucasbfr ^talk 12:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Argument change

The edit summary of this revision was a bit terse, so I'm adding a full explanation. The point where {{PAGENAME}} occurs is within an if where {{{page|{{PAGENAME}}}} and {{PAGENAME}} are compared. The 'then' parameter of this '#if' template contains an '#ifexists'; even if 'page' is present and different than PAGENAME (so the 'then' parameter is not shown), the page of the '#ifexists' is still considered to be linked from the page including this template.

A practical example: the page 'A' transcludes this template with parameter page=B. This means that {{{page|{{PAGENAME}}}} is 'B' while {{PAGENAME}} is 'A'. Since they do not coincide, the '#if' does not show the 'then' text. However, this 'then' text still includes the statement '#ifexists|{{PAGENAME}}', which means that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A is still considered linked from page A, while in fact it isn't.

The problem was that my bot saw that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A is the afd discussion page and tries to 'complete' it. This could have been a problem for other bots as well. Tizio 18:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. I hadn't realized that #ifexist: creates an entry in Special:Whatlinkshere. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 03:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This template needs a better how to use section

This template needs to be worked on. Having the following text appear on every article that the template has been applied to is an improper use of the template:

Steps to list an article for deletion: 1. {{subst:afd}} 2. {{subst:afd2|pg=List of fictional diseases|cat=|text=}} ~~~~ (categories) 3. {{subst:afd3|pg=List of fictional diseases}} (add to top of list) 4. Please consider notifying the author(s) by placing {{subst:adw|List of fictional diseases}} ~~~~ on their talk page(s). Dbiel ^(Talk) 19:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong link

{{editprotected}}
The dot (and only the dot) after "in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" link to Template:AfD. I think that's probably not intended. :-) Can somebody remove the link, please? -- Lea (talk) 13:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Y Done - Nihiltres^{t.l} 14:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It was intended originally as a way for finding lost AfDs (it dates from the last time there was a complete redesign of {{afd}}'s appearance, except for the amboxing). However, nowadays there's a category that does the same thing. --ais523 13:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)