Talk:Adygea

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Contents 1 Should it be spelled Adygea or Adygeya? 2 Europe or Asia? 3 Possible information to add in on the discrimination issue 4 Words in box should be clear and self-sufficient

[edit] Should it be spelled Adygea or Adygeya?

Both of these are spellings for this Russian Republic. Here's some facts provided by Cantus:

1. Adygeya was moved to Adygea.
   • Google search: Adygeya=43,800; Adygea=3,400
   • Britannica=Adygea
   • Encarta=Adygea
   • Columbia=Adygey Republic

   Consider conducting a poll regarding the name to be used as the encyclopedias do not seem to reflect the most common spelling.

--Hottentot

[edit] Europe or Asia?

Is it in Europe or Asia? Badagnani 18:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

It's in Europe (west of the Urals is considered to be the European part of Russia).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible information to add in on the discrimination issue

Could someone take a look at this and see what's good for including in the Politics section of the article? Octane ^{[improve me]} 19.09.07 2224 (UTC)

[edit] Words in box should be clear and self-sufficient

Ezhiki, you say I should not make it clear that the rankings are WITHIN the Russian Federation. You say someone can hold their cursor over the words "Rank". That's true, but I never thought of that and neither will lots of other people. It does not make the box wider as you implied, so I don't see the problem with making the text clear without hovering over the words "Rank". Korky Day (talk) 09:31, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Korky! Thanks for your comment. The wide infobox problem does not occur in IE and Opera; only in Firefox. I was unable to fix it, and neither was anyone else I asked, so for now we are trying to avoid widening the infobox whenever possible.

As for the way the "rank" link is handled, it is pretty typical for this kind of infobox. Since the infobox refers to a federal subject of Russia, it, in my opinion, should be fairly clear that whatever ranks are shown in the infobox, they would also refer to the rank within Russia. This is especially true when this particular piece of information is something the reader needs to know, in which case hovering the mouse pointer over the "rank" link or clicking on it should refute whatever doubts that reader had.

Still, since this was obviously a problem to you, it probably means it might have been a problem to numerous others who just did not take time to let this be known. So, I had this issue fixed, but instead of adding the clarification to one federal subject's infobox, I modified the infobox itself—it now explicitly says that the rank is within Russia (I had to make the detail lines smaller and replace "Russian Federation" with "Russia" (the names are equivalent anyway) in order to avoid widening the infobox in Firefox). I hope this addresses your concerns. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions for improving the infobox; I'd be more than happy to help. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your friendly response. You're trying, but there are still problems. I'm using Firefox myself and I see no problem. Russia is not the Russian Federation. I think the infobox at the very top needs to make much clearer that it refers to a republic in the federation. For naive readers, that's still very unclear. Korky Day (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what the deal with Firefox is; perhaps the issue was fixed in recent versions. I don't use Firefox myself, but the infobox widening problem was pointed out to me by at least two people who did.

As for the name, I see what you are trying to say, but please note that according to Article 1 of the Constitution of Russia, the names "Russia" and "Russian Federation" are equivalent (see here, for example).

Finally, regarding your observation that it may not be immediately obvious to a naive reader that the article is about a republic within Russia, perhaps adding a header of some sort would help? So, instead of starting with the block listing the names of the republic in different languages, there would first be an infobox-wide header stating "Federal subject of Russia" or some such. Do you think that'd help? It's pretty trivial to add, although I'm not sure what the visual impact would be.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)