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[edit] Article name

Since someone pointed out a couple weeks ago that the name of the park is Adirondack Park (no "State"), it seems that we should move this article so it has the proper name. Any objections? --Ahc 04:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's time to go ahead with this move. I'll put it in some time in the next week unless you do first or no one else raises an objection. Ari Epstein 11:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be called the Adirondack Forest Preserve. Who calls it Adirondack Park? Whether or not its name is changed, the relationship of this to the Adirondack Forest Preserve National Historic Landmark should be addressed. A huge area, which I presume is the entire Adirondack Park, but which may differ in border definitions, became a National Historic Landmark in 1963. See the nomination form, at http://pdfhost.focus.nps.gov/docs/NHLS/Text/66000891.pdf, or search on "Adirondack" in "New York" at http://nrhp.focus.nps.gov . This should be tied into List of National Historic Landmarks in New York .Don 23:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

"Adirondack Park" is the official name given to the region in the New York State Environmental Conservation Law, 9-0101(1) (its legal definition, a metes-and-bounds full of "thence northerly ..." and such which takes about three or four full pages in the statute book. As such, it is what we call it.

I put {{Registered Historic Places}} at the bottom and some mentions in the text. That's all it needs; this is a protected-area article and that project's requirements take precedence. Yes, the current park is identical to the NHL. Daniel Case 02:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

But the NHL mention you added into the first paragraph was later edited out. I've just added mention of 1963 NHL declaration, into the History section of the article where I hope it is not unduly salient, and included reference citation.doncram 20:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Doh! could someone please revert this article? I tried to add the NY times reference about the nature conservancy purchase dated june 18, 2007, but seem to have lost the rest of the article and can't figure out what I did wrong. 67.101.40.61 my bad.

[edit] Acreage statistics

Any idea where the "6.1 million acres" statistic comes from? The APA land-use statistics that I just threw in a reference to (http://www.apa.state.ny.us/gis/colc0303.htm) give the total as just over 5.8 million acres. Dave Greene 08:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's a State Park

Please see the recent changes to the intro sentence made by Daniel Case and me (previously as 68.108.77.121) and weigh in. I concede that the Adirondack Park is special, and that it is managed under separate provisions of NY State Law than the bulk of the NY State Park system, i.e. it has it's own regulatory agency, it's codified in the NY State Constitution, it has large tracts of legally protected wilderness, etc. However in the plain English meaning of "state park" it is also a state park. Stating that it is in fact a "state park" doesn't detract from all the other things it is (facts made clear throughout the article), but omitting "state park" leads to erroneously conclusions, especially about the relative size of other state parks and does detract from the truth. Britannica online sees it as a State Park - "The area was sparsely settled when in 1892 the state legislature created Adirondack Park, which has grown over the years to become, at more than 5 million acres (2 million hectares), the largest U.S. state or national park outside of Alaska." The language used in my recent change was basically identical to what was in the article several months ago.Mirboj (talk) 20:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

And as I've said elsewhere, just because the Britannica, an encyclopedia compiled by unknown scribes in some British ivory tower and not on the ground near the things they write about, says so doesn't make it so. Daniel Case (talk) 21:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Changed intro sentence so that it's neutral on the state park issue, since this is currently a matter of discussion. Mirboj (talk) 06:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)