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[edit] Why are they so important

The band well known as ac/dc has in fluenced many bands well known today. like Fall Out Boy, Plain White tees, and many others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.213.142 (talk) 00:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Evans

Can someone please check the recent edits to Dave Evans (singer)? The edits made by Mosey1 (talk · contribs) are apparently made by Mr. Evans himself, and while they fixed some obvious inaccuracies and added some useful content, I'm not sure that all the info added is accurate and NPOV. I might be wrong, but the article seems to lean towards a certain POV now, and some statements need a source. For instance, was Mr. Evans a founding member of the band? Or is it Ok to refer to opinion of Angus as "malicious", while the NPOV rules require that the wiki article should not assume any position and just present the opinions of both sides? A checkup by knowledgeable editors would be good. Grandmaster (talk) 06:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 200 million album sales?

ok, i think it should be changed from 150 to 200 million albums sales, because I found this: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/22/1066631502999.html , this indicates that they have sold more than 200 million, and it's by far the most reliable source ; The Sydney Morning Herald(and it's Austrian btw) should i change it or not ? i know there are other sources that say they have sold 150 million, but i personally think it should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dim386 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Remove dave evans

I removed Dave evans from the former members section of the info box and list of former members list. This is because he was removed from the second row of the template and also since he is a little too minor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.115 (talk) 15:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 8 out of 10 current and former members are of British origin

Why is this not mentioned anywhere in the article? Surely the fact that the vast majority of the members are British would be something to take note of?

8 of them were born and raised in Britain with British parents. The 2 Australian members were booted from the band. AC/DC only stayed in Australia for a couple of years before relocating to the UK. They draw on British bands for influence.

Surely this is a British band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.13.210 (talk) 13:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read the discussion in archive 3, the article currently has 50 odd sources which say the band is Australian. Global tv in this article from March 4, 2008 calls them an Australian band. The difference is that the band formed in Australia, first album release was in Australia, the fact that current members are Brittish nationals doesnt change the origins of the band. Gnangarra 14:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Site worthy of inclusion

http://acdcnews.com Good site for updated AC/DC news and rumors. Usually more current than ACDC.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.227.209 (talk) 19:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

WP does not link to blogs. I will remove it if it has not been already. Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Since when does WP not link to blogs? I see blogs all over WP. Where is the precise rule that says that WP can't link a site on Blogger? 71.122.32.84 (talk) 16:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Please point out the blogs you "see all over WP"? How do we know your blog is reliable and that it contains accurate information? indopug (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Who said it was my blog? All one has to do to find a blog on WP is to look up nearly any well known person and you'll see that many of them have their personal blogs listed as external links. Is there something you can point out to on http://acdcnews.com that is innacurate? For that matter, how do we know wikipedia is reliable and contains accurate information? Many reputable researchers regularly say it does not. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

But that isn't AC/DC's personal blog is it? And yes, Wikipedia is not reliable. indopug (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No, that's not a personal blog. My point was that blogs are obviously allowed on WP. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No. See #12 at Link to be avoided. indopug (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That rule is irrelevant in this case as AC/DC News is not a Wiki. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 19:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I meant number eleven. indopug (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I would say that the author of AC/DC News is a recognized authority on that band since he's obviously been writing about the band for years and years if you look through his personal links. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 19:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

"Recognised" means that independent third-party reliable sources have identified him as an authority on the subject. Doesn't matter what he writes about himself on his own blog. indopug (talk) 19:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

So Mark Cuban's musings on Bill O'Reilly are somehow "recognized" as "reliable" http://www.blogmaverick.com/2008/04/07/bill-o-reilly-why-wont-you-support-the-movie-fighting-for-li/ yet AC/DC News doesn't qualify? I think you're missing the big picture. What other expert on AC/DC has had a longer running history of writing about AC/DC on the web? Let me know and let's put that link on Wikipedia. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 19:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not American, so I don't get the point of that Cuban/O'Reilly comparison you made. Really sorry Wikipedia policy doesn't allow your blog to be added though. indopug (talk) 20:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

First off, it's not my blog. Second, how about answering my question on what other web expert has more authority on AC/DC? Third, regardless of what nationality you are, a quick internet search would show you that Mark Cuban is the owner of a professional basketball team which gives him no "recognized" authority to comment on political pundits like Bill O'Reilly (whom you can also look up). 71.122.32.84 (talk) 20:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

We are on Wikipedia. We don't need a "quick internet search". I figured out who the people were, but couldn't quite figure what Cuban was trying to say on his blog and the context of the whole incident. If I knew that then maybe I could tell you why that blog was included. indopug (talk) 20:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and I don't know any web-experts on AC/DC; unless if you consider the likes of Rolling Stone or Allmusic websites (not experts, but reliable sources). indopug (talk) 20:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, well if you're going to avoid answering my questions, there's no sense in discussing this topic any further with you. I don't know why you're so biased against http://acdcnews.com (a site you've probably barely even looked at) but just quoting some vague rule about blogs (which is obviously not uniformly enforced on WP) seems to me to be a very poor editing decision. Also, I wouldn't consider Rolling Stone or All Music to be reliable sources on AC/DC. They're for pop music fans at best. I thought WP wanted expert info here? Finally, if you don't know any experts on AC/DC, what are you doing editing their page? 71.122.32.84 (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

(undent) It is not a vague rule about blogs; it is clearly stated that blogs are to be avoided. Even if it is not uniformly enforced, it is still a WP policy. I enforce it when I come across it, and it seems that Indopug does as well. Links to blogs will be removed from the page. Carl.bunderson (talk) 22:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It certainly is vague. Otherwise, there would be no blog links posted on WP. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It is not a matter of the rule being vague. It's more that WP is overrun with vandals and spammers, and the worthy editors are many places overpowered. Carl.bunderson (talk) 00:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

He decided to go ahead and add his blog anyway. indopug (talk) 10:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Rock n roll"

While the fans might call them rock n roll, shouldn't we point out that AC/DC is far from rock n roll? The lack of a walking bass line and that kinda thing? Seriphyn (talk) 09:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC is most certainly rock 'n' roll. The beats, rhythms, and song structures are all based on the great rock songs of the 50's and 60's. 71.122.32.84 (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Former members in the info box

I recently added Dave Evans and two other former members of AC/DC in the info box as former members, but they were taken off the next day. While no albums were released with their names in the credits, they were still apart of the band, and if not all of them, atleast Dave, because he was the first AC/DC lead singer, whether any of us liked it or not. BBFootBallr54 (talk) 16:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protect?

Pretty much every other edit to the article is vandalism, is it eligible for semi-protection? indopug (talk) 13:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)