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[edit] Settlement

Was this area really not settled until the 1700s? Tuf-Kat 06:59, Oct 2, 2003 (UTC)

Most likely the tribe mingled with existing residents in the area, but the dtuy might well have had no permanent inhabitants. These were all nomads; and to this day there are still quite a few that live the nomadic lifestyle, the main change being the addition of cellphones. 1/2 :-) But I just wrote what Abu Dhabi says about itself, don't have a massive tome of Arabian history to work from. Stan 13:08, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

No, Abu Dhabi Island was not settled before ca. 1760. Which does not mean the Island was not 'used' earlier (see below under Translation of "Abu Dhabi" and 'father of the gazelle'). --x@x 19:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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Name of ruler Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan should be mentioned somewhere...

[edit] Emirate and City

Does anyone familiar with the area think it would be useful to have two articles: this one, Abu Dhabi (Emirate) and another Abu Dhabi (City). The images are just of the city itself which is a little misleading. The images simply show the city itself and the article doesn't make things perfectly clear. The Emirate as a whole is actually quite massive though most of it is desert. Marskell 18:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I lived a while in a quite remote area in the Emirate near the town of Ruwais. Have a look on the German article [1] on Wikipedia. I have added some Cities there. But there are not much information available except maybe Al Ain. The section is reporting about that motorway in the night illuminated all the way long and some stuff on desalination and power plants. Have also a look on the links to the cities ("Halbinsel"=paninsula). Contact me if more information are required, maybe I can help. -ThorstenS 11:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Marskell. If nobody objects, I will attempt to separate the article into two parts shortly. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 16:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

Abu Dhabi is also the name of submission wrestling event.

Trench 21:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

In that case, this information would be much more usefully added to submission wrestling, which doesn't mention it. siafu 22:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I am currently trying to get some info about the event on the submission wrestling article. I thought I'd mention it here as the competition is almost always refered to solely as 'Abu Dhabi'. In fact before checking here I had no idea Abu Dhabi was a place :). If the general consensus is that there's no need for any mention of it in this piece that's fine. Anyone else have any other thoughts? - Trench 20:11, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I have heard the Submission Wrestling event refered to as the "ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship" and the "Abu Dhabi Submission Wrestling World Championship" (ADCC stands for Abu Dhabi Combat Club" Unfortunately the ADCC doesnt have an article yet.

I have been a member of the ADCC and have the patch to prove it, I was a student of Ju-jitsu. It is situated near the abu dhabi equistrian club. The wrestling event is indeed the Abu Dhabi Submission Wrestling World Championship and it takes place in the combat club yearly. Angrynight 21:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship now has it's own page. I'm not certain if it's notable enough to be mentioned in this article. Abu Dhabi has hosted all but one of the events. -- Trench 20:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Garfield and irony

"The cartoon cat Garfield would often put his nemesis, the kitten Nermal, in a box and ship him to Abu Dhabi. A common phrase from Garfield: "Abu Dhabi is where all the cute kittens go". Ironically, there is an active non-profit society named Feline Friends in Abu Dhabi and the other towns in the UAE which specialises in finding homes for abandoned or stray cats and kittens."

This paragraph combines two of my favourite hot-button issues: cats and misuse of the word 'ironically'. Irony is difficult to define briefly and precisely, but it implies something unexpected. Good example: it is ironic that the song 'Ironic' by Alanis Morisette does not mention a single thing that is actually ironic. Rain is as likely on your wedding day as any other day, other things (e.g. season) being equal. Only if you set your wedding date according to when the weather forecast said it wouldn't rain, and it rained, would it be ironic. And so on. It would be ironic that there is a cats' protection society in Abu Dhabi only if Garfield sent Nermal to Abu Dhabi because he believed that they killed and ate cats, or something. I'm going to reword the paragraph, hope no-one objects. --Last Malthusian 11:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

An offhand mention of an American cartoon cat in an otherwise serious article shows just how cheap and stupid Wikipedia can be. --Nelson 21:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I'm going to have to say Nelson hit this one on the head, here --68.5.64.68 —Preceding comment was added at 19:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok seriously, if this point has SO much merit, write an article about it, it will be at home with the billions of other pages dilligently cross-indexing naurto fanfiction websites and their extensive classification system, meanwhile we can have an article or two here about something serious that doesn't involve 80's cartoon cats. --68.5.64.68 —Preceding comment was added at 22:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] i used to live there...

I go back to visit every now and again. If there are any others who live there or used to I invite them to improve the page. It is a relativley small city and yet capital of a country which has been appearing a lot in the news lately. There are numerous expatriates who have experience being there as well. Angrynight 21:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I live in Abu Dhabi, but nothing big ever happens around here (which is a good thing) so I doubt there's anything more to add to the article. Maybe Dubai though, it's a lot more active. --195.229.242.55 20:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] no mention of BCCI?

"...the greatest victim, by far, is the tiny Gulf emirate of Abu Dhabi, which is today deeply humiliated and embittered by the whole affair.

By the FT's estimate, Abu Dhabi's exposure to BCCI and related entities amounts to Dollars 9.4bn. This includes direct investment in BCCI, official deposits placed with the bank and the enormous cost of propping up BCCI as it tottered to its end.

Some of this may be recovered when the bank's remaining assets are liquidated - but most has gone for good. Even this immense sum amounts to only nine months' worth of the Dollars 12bn that Abu Dhabi earns from oil sales each year. For Abu Dhabi, the loss of face has been far more wounding."

David Lascelles, Banking Editor, Richard Donkin, Alan Friedman, Christina Lamb, Richard Tomkins, Bernard Simons, Chris Tighe, Jimmy Burns, James Buxton, Stephen Fidler And Richard Waters, "BCCI, Behind Closed Doors: The biggest bank fraud in history", Financial Times, November 9, 1991

[edit] untitled heading

I heard that no neighborhood in the city is older than a few decades.

[edit] Translation of "Abu Dhabi"

There was no translation of "Abu Dhabi" so I've added "Father of Gazelle." If this translation can be improved, those with Arabic-language expertise should do so. Badagnani 22:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

In Arabic, "Abu Dhabi" means "gazelle's owner" or "gazelle's father". However, I am not familiar with the history of this name.

Father of the Gazelle is correct
Abu Dhabi does indeed mean 'Father of the Gazelle', where 'father' may be taken to mean 'land' as well. The name reflect the local lore that tells the story of the Bani Yas tribe hunting a gazelle. They followed the animal onto what is now Abu Dhabi island (earlier know as Mleih), where they suddenly found it to drink fresh water from a well or spring. The presence of fresh water prompted the start of a permanent settlement, beginning with the construction of a tower (later the Qasr al-Hosn) to guard the well.

Most likely the Bani Yas were active on the island some time before the settlement (fishing, pearling), but the lack of water prevented more permanent settling. --x@x 19:23, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

"Father of Oryx" is probably a closer translation. --Zenjibar 11:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yesterday, I wrote: "Good point, strictly speaking I think a gazelle would normally be a "Reem" rather than a "Dhabi", but there may be many more words that mean one or another type of gazelle..". However, my dictionary does give "dhabi" (ظبى)for gazelle together with "ghazal" (غزال), and something else for oryx: المارية : ضرب من بقر الوحش الأفريقي to be precise. So I guess Oryx is not a good translation after all. But I am open to be convinced otherwise.. --x@x 09:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reem Island

Should not Reem Island be mentioned here (since Dubai have all their big projects added)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.97.72 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 11 January 2007

[edit] Photographs

Could people please stop putting poor quality photographs (i.e. taken with a mobile phone, etc.) on this page? Thank you. 213.202.132.180 16:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

The article needs at least one photograph in it.--Sefringle^Talk 06:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lulu Island semi-natural?

"Lulu Island, a semi-natural landmass that is arguably the most strategic and valuable piece of property in the Emirate." This at the minimum needs a citation, but I also doubt its validity. I don't remember there being any land mass there at all before it was created... 78.16.6.177 19:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals

At several of the talk pages for the individual Emirates of the UAE, queries or proposals have been put forth for having separate articles for the emirates and their eponymous capitals (e.g. here and here. As of now, two of the emirates have been disambiguated from their capitals: Abu Dhabi (emirate) / Abu Dhabi and Ajmān / Ajmān (city). If you are interested in discussing a comprehensive approach to the issue, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Asia#Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals. — AjaxSmack 19:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorting out Abu Dhabi and Abu Dhabi (emirate)

This article seems to mix Abu Dhabi the city and Abu Dhabi the emirate, even though the latter has its own article at Abu Dhabi (emirate). All material about the emirate should be moved there. Further, the map given in the article is not a map of the emirate Abu Dhabi, but of the whole UAE. AxelBoldt 05:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population

I think this article is currently mixing up the city population with the entire emirate's population -- the emirate has 1.8m or so, but the city is under a million. Jpatokal 16:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

In the article it says: second most populous city in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). and Approximately 900,000 people lived in Abu Dhabi 2008,... right now. However, United_Arab_Emirates says The most populated city is Abu Dhabi, with approximately 1.8 million people. Other major cities include Dubai, Al Ain, Sharjah, and Fujairah. -- JanCK (talk) 13:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The figures in the UAE article are wrong. I've fixed the errors. Thanks AreJay (talk) 14:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

i think the population is much more than 859,749..because if in the economy section it mentions the emiratis(the citizens) are 420000, then their almost half the popultion of abu dhabi, which isnt true. they are 19-20% of the uae population, so im sure their are not 49% of abu dhabi.but i do not know how many ther r in abu dhabi..this should be looked over at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.68.97 (talk) 17:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

yeah? well is someone gona answer me? make wikipedia a more accurate place idiots! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.68.97 (talk) 04:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In the media

Please, do not remove the "In the media" section unless you have a very good reason. This section seems important, a least to me it does. Abu Dhabi is not a very well known city. Only recently have people become aware of its existence. The usage of Abu Dhabi in the late 1980s and early 1990s is very interesting. If you have a very good reason for removing it, please add it here. Thank you. --Leitmanp 19:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

You cannot possibly be serious. Gazpacho 19:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Nobody gives a shit about Garfield. --Spooner 19:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

If it's that important to you write an article about it. Otherwise it is dumb and unnecessary --68.5.64.68 —Preceding comment was added at 01:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It goes back in. Why? Even the Abu Dhabi National Exhibitions Company thinks it's worthy of a mention. Which trumps "it's dumb" from anonymous editors and "nobody gives a shit" from accounts that coincidentally have never made an edit before touching this page. Incidentally, Spooner, watch the language or get blocked. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 17:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

NO IT IS NOT IMPORTANT. NOBODY IN THE WORLD EVER HAS OR EVER WILL LOOK IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIA ARTICLE ABOUT A CITY TO FIND OUT WHETHER IT WAS MENTIONED BY A GODDAMN TALKING CAT. Gazpacho (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. While I think comics are an integral part of art and culture the world over, there is no need for them to be included in what is essentially a geographical entry. Grusl (talk) 10:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to say that I did in fact look up Abu Dhabi to see if they were going to mention Garfield. Also, I wanted to see if they mention the New York Film Academy. Neither is included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.16.193 (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

There is no mention nor discussion regarding the primary religion of this country. Mechlin (talk) 17:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Abu Dhabi is a city, not a country. The first paragraph links to United Arab Emirates, which discusses religion. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 00:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates?

The coordinates on the top right of the page disagree with the coordinates in the lead paragraph. Sbowers3 15:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Area?

The area in the infobox disagrees with the population and the population density. I guess, a problem with the difference between the emirate and the city again. It's difficult to find facts about the emirates. :/ I would really appreciate a map with the borders between the emirates. --Tantalos (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this map good? Image:UAE en-map.png --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

what kind of messed up picture is this mentioning the towers creating large shadows? who gives a crap?? remove that picture and upload another one..and have that picture of the corniche side in the "history" part brought back..abu dhab's page is very small for a fast growing city too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.135.11.198 (talk) 00:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Which image are you referring to when you say "that picture of the corniche side?" And what kind of image would you like that should replace the shadows one? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

he's actually right, hey do you mean this old one? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abu_Dhabi&oldid=181830169

and let's consider having a better abu dhabi skyline picture,shall we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.211.224.159 (talk) 19:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

This mediocre image that you are referring to did not improve the article and was correctly removed. On the other hand this image of the towers that you mention is fine. If you think you can do better, then do it. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 07:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the current picture is fine, but the caption is pointless. The same statement is in the article. I'm referring to the buildings create large shadows. Um, ok...large buildings do that. What's the point of stating that in the article?--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In the media continued

I see this was discussed before, although in not a professional manner by the now-blocked users. But I'm not sure the mentioning of Garfield really adds to an article that is otherwise, very profesionally made and informative. It just doesn't seem it's "encyclopedia worthy." Thoughts? --AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to mention I looked at the Abu Dhabi National Exhibitions Company website and the only thing it talks about is a trivia question regarding Garfield. So either way, it's trivia and WP:TRIVIA discourages it. I must admit, I'm a fan of the cat...just not in this article. --AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the section should be removed (such a meager topic should never warrant its own section), but the information within the section should be moved somewhere else. It is an interesting mention of Abu Dhabi in the American media several years before the city was even known widely in the West. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 04:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

sounds fair enough. where should it go? --AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 04:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

No suggestion just yet but I agree with Leitmanp here - that's pretty much the only reason I've restored it to the article a couple of times. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 02:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Doing a quick scan of the article, I do not see any place where it should go. It does not seem to fit anywhere. The only places where its location seems justifiable would be in the "Language and literature" or "Culture and the arts" sections. Although those two sections are about the language, literature, and arts of Abu Dhabi, we could mention something on the lines of:

"Abu Dhabi not only has arts, but is apart of the arts in the United States. In the American cartoon Garfield, the cat Garfield would often put the kitten Nermal in a box and ship him to Abu Dhabi. The phrase "Abu Dhabi is where all the cute kittens go" is sometimes used in the comic. In one episode of Garfield and Friends, Garfield himself is sent to Abu Dhabi and he finds it inhabited with dozens of cute kittens that people keep sending there."

I am not so sure if that is good. Can we clasify Garfield as art? But, at least it would get rid of the "In the media" section. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 04:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, art is a stretch. I say put it as the opening sentence of the article. ;) Just playin. I agree about not seeing anywhere for it to fit. That's why I personally think it doesn't belong, but as long as you and Earle Martin want it included, I'm sure we can find some place for it.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 06:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

This is absolutely mind-boggling to watch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.31.253 (talk) 09:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Judging from your talk page, I assume you're not here to make any type of intellectual contribution. This is a talk page for those interested in Dubai...not a place to leave unhelpful comments. Thanks. --AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I took the liberty of removing that section from the article. References to "Garfield" are WP:UNDUE and add little encyclopedic value to the article. The "Media" section in this article should discuss newspapers, TV/radio stations and perhaps internet connectivity. I do not think Garfield references have any reason to be included here. AreJay (talk) 06:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The reference does seem utterly irrelevant to the article. It's just a catchphrase. I'm also concerned that the factbox data - (population, area, etc.) seems to refers to the emirate, while the article seems to refer only to the city. Grusl (talk) 10:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] city/emirate population

According to [2], the city of Abu Dhabi has a population of 1,292,119 (2005 estimate). This [3] website says the entire emirate's population was 1.3 million in 2005. This [4] one says the city's population is 650,000 and the emirate's population is 1.85 million.

The current article says the city's population is 1,850,230 (2006 estimate). The same number is given for the emirate itself.

We need to figure out the correct number for the city (the emirate's population seems to be correct since more than one source says it's 1.85 million).

p.s. This [5] article states the city's population will be 3 million by 2030. That could probably be mentioned somewhere...once we figure out the city's current population.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emirate vs City (again)

Some emirates, including Abu Dhabi, have important towns and cities that aren't part of the main city of the emirate. Abu Dhabi (Al Ain), Sharjah (Khor Fakkan, Dibba, Kalba), Umm al-Quwain (Dibba Muhallab) all have important towns and cities. For each of these emirates, I propose creating three pages — one for the emirate, one for the city and one disambiguation page. So for Abu Dhabi for example, there would be Abu Dhabi (emirate) (already exists), Abu Dhabi (city) and Abu Dhabi pages. The "Abu Dhabi" page would be a disambig page that would say something like "Abu Dhabi can refer to either the largest emirate in the UAE <link to the emirate article> or to that emirate's largest city <link to the city article>".

The way most articles are structured right now, it isnt immediately clear whether we're talking about the emirate or the city. And sometimes there's a mish-mash of data that could relate to either the city or the emirate. Any thoughts on this proposal would be appreciated. The Abu Dhabi article is probably not the best place to bring this matter to attention, but we dont really have a UAE Wikiproject as yet. Thanks AreJay (talk) 23:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

this page keeps getting edited, the population isnt accurate at all, every website gives different info ranging from 800000-1.8 mill, the new edited page is really bad..the best pictures were previously removed which was enough, now the link to cnn as the richest city in the world has gone, its something to be mentioned, and no citations have been added..if i add something with no citation wikipedia will make a big deal outve it, but if someone else did they get to keep it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.135.25.249 (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and created an "Abu Dhabi (city)" article and converted the "Abu Dhabi" article into a disambiguation page. Hopefully, this will clear up some of the confusion related to city vs. emirate statistics, etc. I will probably do the same for Sharjah and Ras al-Khaimah as well. Thanks AreJay (talk) 18:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I never got around to commenting on this topic. I was hoping you would wait a little longer, I guess I was wrong. I oppose this move. There is no reason to have the three pages. When people refer to Abu Dhabi, usually they are referring to the city and not the emirate. I think the link "Abu Dhabi" should go directly to the page about the city for that exact reason. At the top of the page, we could put a hatnote that says "This is about the city. For the emirate of the same name go to Abu Dhabi (emirate)." And to make sure there is no confusion, we can watch the page and ensure that no information about the emirate gets put on it. The disambiguation page is not needed because there will be a link directly on top of both the city and emirate pages to each other. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you that when people refer to Abu Dhabi, they are most likely referring to the city and not the emirate. However, I think an article titled "Abu Dhabi" ultimately is confusing and the ambiguity results in editors contributing inconsistent facts and data; just to point out one aspect of this, the vast differential in population data added by some users (800,000 vs. 1.8 million), I'm sure, is a result of the ambiguity of the article title. However, like I said, I do agree with your point and don't really have a problem reverting to the old system. I just think that the disambig page provides a level of clarity that I don't think hatnotes provide — as a regular editor, I barely noticed the hatnote...I couldn't possibly expect the many anons that contribute to the article to notice the hatnote either. Your thoughts. AreJay (talk) 21:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Here is my proposal: We keep the titles the same (Abu Dhabi (city) and Abu Dhabi (emirate)), but the disambiguation page should be redirectd to Abu Dhabi (city). This will ensure that at the top of the page it is clearly stated which Abu Dhabi the article is about. And, if people provide a link to Abu Dhabi on another page, it will go directly to the city page, which is very likely what they were referring to. How does that sound? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm ok with that. I'll go ahead and redirect Abu Dhabi to Abu Dhabi (city) tomorrow morning. Thanks AreJay (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Did it for you. Cheers, -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 04:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sovereign wealth fund

The article says Abu Dhabi has the world's largest sovereign wealth fund, but the fund's actual wealth is kept secret. If that's the case, how does anyone know that it's the world's largest? Through already existing investments? Through signed contracts indicating future investments? This sentence is vague and needs to be quantified. AreJay (talk) 21:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, isn't ADIA considered the largest by many people/sources. It is assumed worldwide that it is the largest, although no statistics are availabe. That, I would think, would give credence to that statement. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I found an estimate for the total asset value of ADIA from the economist...I've gone ahead and added the ref. AreJay (talk) 19:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Economy and population of the emirate or the city

In the economy section, the GDP of the emirate is mentioned and not the city. Also, the population listed in this section is different from the population listed in the infobox. We should ensure that the wealth and population of Abu Dhabi is only about the city and not the emirate (or both). Can this be corrected? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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