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[edit] Victoria

While it is true to say that the law in Victoria is based on Menhennitt, that is not a true statement of the position in Victoria. Effectively, the law is ignored, and if a woman seeks an abortion in the early stages of pregnancy she will get it on demand. Obfuscations about how a pregnancy might upset her (and therefore harm her mental health) are accepted without question.

Avalon 05:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

WP:CITE. Ambi 11:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation for Knight

Peter Knight had a redlink of "Peter Knight (murderer)". While abhorrent, I'm not sure if politically-motivated violence comes under the category of murder, even if that was what he was convicted of. "Terrorist" is regarded as a no-no by many, and the actions weren't aimed at putting pressure on the government. Would "Peter Knight (killer)" be better? Andjam 02:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

He was convicted of murder. This makes the title of a murderer a verifiable fact in his case. Ambi 03:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Did you read my comment? Andjam 03:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, NSW has that "Politically Motivated Killings" exemption for murder in the 2006 Bill "Crimes Act (Politically Motivated Killings not Murder)" which has just received assent. Other states are bound to follow. I, for one, eagerly anticipate being able to kill those damn "crack eggs at the little end"ers and avoid gaol under the bill. Fifelfoo 05:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Please try to be more civil. Andjam 12:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Abortion-related litigation

Would it be relevant to mention "wrongful birth" and wrongful life cases in Australia in this article? Andjam 12:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Mightn't be bad as a seperate section at the bottom. Rebecca 11:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent additions of data from polls

There was some unsourced data from a February poll added to the page, I've located the source, identified it, and removed some points that, as far as I can tell, do not appear to correlate with the source (but were misreported in the media). I've also found two points of view on the study (commissioned by an anti-abortion group), here and here. There is also a SMH article. There ought to be debate on whether or not this source should be included, or whether it should be included with the critiques. The questions and the complete data are in the report (PDF). The sample size seems small to me, and the questions somewhat loaded, I would think that some more reliable statistics could be found and used in preference to these. --bainer (talk) 14:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The fact that the poll was commissioned by a pro-life group and uses loaded terms (e.g. "unborn child") is problematic. I definitely wouldn't include these data under the "Public opinion" sub-section of Abortion, due to the neutrality concern, for the same reason I rejected a a 2001 U.K. poll conducted by MORI and commissioned BPAS. However, because the country-specific abortion articles aren't held to the same standard of brevity as the top-tier Abortion article, they're the perfect place for more in-depth discussion of national opinion polls and their surrounding bias. I've created a seperate "Public opinion" section, as there is at Abortion in Canada, and moved in the Australian public opinion data from Abortion. Anyone wishing to add further opinion poll or information can do so there now. -Severa (!!!) 02:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] map

there was a discussion about removing australia's state borders from the world map showing abortion and making a separate one for australia. this is as close as i can understand it from what is on this page, if its incorrect it can be changed easily.--Astrokey44 07:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Greak work, Astrokey! Thanks for taking the initiative in making this map. -Severa (!!!) 03:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could this be updated with the progress/completion of the bill?

In early 2006, a private members bill was introduced in the Senate to strip the health minister of their power of veto over abortifacients. This bill was approved by both houses of parliament, but as of February 16, 2006 it is still awaiting assent. Health Minister Tony Abbott and previous ministers wouldn't allow it to be made available prior to the vote. Abbott responded to the vote by calling for funding of alternative counselling to pregnant women through church-affiliated groups.(203.23.60.6 03:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)).

[edit] Australia is not unique in the state-by-state legislation

The article states: "unlike any other country, with the possible exception of the United States."

That is incorrect. Mexico, my home country, is another example where abortion, at least currently, is regulated on a state-by-state basis.

[edit] WP Aus B-class assessment

Still B class, some concerns over referencing the lack of inline citations in particular could raise WP:BLP issues. Gnangarra 04:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


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