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[edit] Personal Attack

I am afraid that I do not know what you are talking about (personal attacks). I have never met you before, and there is nothing on your talk page apart from this message! Sorry, can't help! Dewarw (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Wars

I'm quite frankly fed up of our edit wars and it's affecting the quality of Wikipedia. Could you perhaps state your objections (specifically, not just POV) to my edits on my talk page or the talk page of the article before you revert them and I'll do the same. Thank you Welshleprechaun (talk) 18:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

This IP has been blocked for 24hrs due to 3RR and other revert wars on Valley Lines and elsewhere. --AlisonW (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "(not really an unblock request) Please also consider blocking User:Welshleprechaun, whose constant POV editing and ignorance of warnings has led to the alleged "warring". See also here for relevant evidence."

Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.

I'll not unblock you for the present as you have appeared to be 'chasing' User:Welshleprechaun over quite a number of articles engaging in revertion or deletion without discussion. I acknowledge that User:Welshleprechaun has also reverted yourself, however a user is permitted to revert IP vandalism and, without evidence to the contrary, many of your edits do appear to be in that category. I haven't reverted all of them though and I shall watch the articles concerned for acceptable behaviour (or otherwise) by both of you. --AlisonW (talk) 19:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Additional. I've looked at the 'evidence' you have cited and whilst it doesn't change my opinion / decision above, I shall take it on board. Could I suggest that you register yourself on Wikipedia so that you can get a good reputation (or otherwise, obviously!) without creating problems by solely using an IP address for editing. This would also aid you personally. --AlisonW (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I've guessing an apostrophe went missing in this comment. I am an editor of some 6 years or more. I do have an account, and actively choose not to use it, specifically because of the actions of editors such as User:Welshleprechaun. I must reiterate that I am not requesting that this IP be unblocked, and merely wished to draw attention to the actions of the user whose disruption I was trying to undo. I still maintain that something needs to be done as regards User:Welshleprechaun, as he has ignored several warnings for disruption. If you are unwilling to act on this yourself, would you at least be willing to bring this to the attention of other admins? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Please provide specific evidence of vandalism from this IP. I have provided evidence of User:Welshleprechaun's constant disruptive behaviour, and I believe you've caught the wrong end of the stick here. 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The one I blocked for was your four reverts in quick succession on Valley Lines. --AlisonW (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Again, please provide specific evidence of vandalism. I don't see any breach of 3RR there. Please also explain why User:Welshleprechaun, who is the one actually engaging in tendentious editing is not also blocked. I am happy to accept not being unblocked, but I feel a little annoyed that I am being punished for undoing the damange. 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll correct myself slightly; they only appear to be quick succession as the edit war is the only recent activity on the article. I'll still leave the block in place for the moment though as other unexplained reverting is also around. --AlisonW (talk) 19:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The reason only you are blocked - for the moment - and not others, eg User:Welshleprechaun - is because there is a policy that IP-only editors are presumed at fault and logged-in editors given the benefit in such circumstances. As I've noted above there are options available to you to remove that particular issue and I and other admins will be noting what happens on these articles generally by all editors. --AlisonW (talk) 19:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
What policy is that? As far as I was aware, policy was that all editors are on an equal footing. Did you actually review the evidence posted at ANI showing the considerable disruption caused by User:Welshleprechaun? I can't find anything in my own contributions that meets our definitions of vandalism, but in the diffs I have provided, I see addition of inaccuracies, userspace vandalism, abuse of tags, and malicious edit summaries. 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Additional. I've looked at the 'evidence' you have cited and whilst it doesn't change my opinion / decision above, I shall take it on board. Could I suggest that you register yourself on Wikipedia so that you can get a good reputation (or otherwise, obviously!) without creating problems by solely using an IP address for editing. This would also aid you personally. --AlisonW (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I've guessing an apostrophe went missing in this comment. I am an editor of some 6 years or more. I do have an account, and actively choose not to use it, specifically because of the actions of editors such as User:Welshleprechaun. I must reiterate that I am not requesting that this IP be unblocked, and merely wished to draw attention to the actions of the user whose disruption I was trying to undo. I still maintain that something needs to be done as regards User:Welshleprechaun, as he has ignored several warnings for disruption. If you are unwilling to act on this yourself, would you at least be willing to bring this to the attention of other admins? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 19:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Right. I have just written

In one sense I would write that you both seem to be as bad as each other and should *talk* first on the article discussion pages concerned, indeed although it is some years since I lived in Cardiff I can see that you both represent the same issues differently. Might I suggest that you *both* discuss these matters before *either* of you edit this group of articles again? otherwise the repercussions might be more serious. --AlisonW (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

to User:Welshleprechaun. I would strongly suggest you both *talk* first before doing anything more. As such I am unblocking you for the moment, but will not hesitate to reinstate if I see article edit warring starting straight up again. --AlisonW (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well you don't seem to understand why you've been banned. I'll tell you why, just look at the most recent message you left on my talk page. Rather than trying to work with other users to maintain Wikipedia's high quality and standards, you'd rather be stubborn and think you know better than administrators. Or if not, maybe you are actually a vandal and can't provide any answers to my request of specifying what you see wrong with my edits. Now that you have been blocked, I hope you will quickly see the error of your ways. Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

hmmmn. Welshleprechaun; you are not being helpful here. Please both of you try not to antagonise each other, but work together as you both clearly have knowledge to offer. --AlisonW (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Agreed, but that comment wasn't sarcastic. The rail line infoboxes do include Terminus even if services do not terminate at that particular station the majority of the time. This is seen on many other railway station pages (maybe not 100s though) Welshleprechaun (talk) 23:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Valley Lines

The reason I reverted Valley Lines is to clarify the routes because the Vale and Merthyr Lines each split into two. What formatting are you working by? Welshleprechaun (talk) 18:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population figures

Yes, the census figures are the most accurate at that time. But cities can grow a lot in five years, as we can see with Cardiff which has grown by about 12,000 people (305,000-->317,000). If Swansea has a 2006 figure, I think we should use that with Cardiff's 2006 figure. Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for edit warring - I have blocked both youself and the editor you were warring with. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Black Kite 19:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "User:Welshleprechaun is a known problem user, who insists on tendentiously promoting the Cardiff area in any article they find appropriate. There isn't really any negative POV editing going on, as they aren't specifically denigrating any particular area. When approached, they present only the argument that any opponents have "anti-Cardiff POV" or are "belittling Cardiff". They have repeatedly been asked to justify their edits, and have repeatedly refused to do so. See also Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive351#User:Welshleprechaun two reports on ANI as to their disruptive and uncivil behaviour."


Decline reason: "This does not address the reason for your block. Please refrain from further abuse of the unblock template. — Yamla (talk) 20:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)"

Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.

So am I to understand that trying to undo the damage done by vandals and POV-pushers is no longer allowed? Did you actually review the comprehensive evidence of User:Welshleprechaun's long-term history of disruptive editing and poor participation? 90.203.45.168 (talk) 20:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Of for goodness sake, "User:90.203.45.168" do your self a favour and shut up! Get yourself logged onto an account and stop edit warring! Take my advice!

You have been blocked. Now, instead of arguing all the time with the admins, get a grip! Btline (talk) 18:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Advice to admins

I would block this user fully from Wiki. They keep arguing, warring, etc.

This user also accused me of personal attack (even when I had never come across them before).

I have left a message above to the anon IP, and given him/her some advice. it is a strong message, but necessary! Btline (talk) 18:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)



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