User talk:86.154.178.231
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[edit] Unsourced edits & padded articles
A lot of unsourced edits are being uploaded rapidly to articles on French royalty. Some appear dubious, others wrong. Yet requests for reputable citations are ignored, deleted, or inadequately sourced (page numbers in books are essential to verify if the citation is accurate) -- while the wholesale editing continues. Please respond to these requests, either with reputable sources or more careful edits, before adding additional unsourced material. Also, much of the added material is redundant, excessive, or trivial. If a box is inserted that gives genealogical or titular information, there is no reason to repeat it in the text; repetition will be deleted. Relatives of the article's subject belong in their parents' articles -- only. Sections of an article can only be linked to from other articles if they are indented with two dashes, so most three dash indentations will be deleted unless absolutely necessary. Unnecessary spaces between paragraphs and sections are deleted if they appear to be "padding" the article, or concealing its minimal content. Words should normally only be wiki-linked once in an article, when they first appear -- not everytime the person or thing is mentioned. None of these are stylistic rules I made up -- I have learned them from others through editing Wikipedia. Please discuss these types of edits before making them. I'm not going to respond to your personal attacks: Since several other editors have also found it necessary to frequently revert excessive, trivial & redundant info posted by you, clearly the problem is not mine. However, I do not wish to block your edits: you have contributed a number of photos and information that I think is valuable and have left intact. But your refusal to add PROPER citations when requested, or to respond to points raised on talk pages is counter-productive. Please stop and discuss, rather than merely ignoring or deleting. FactStraight (talk) 16:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Blocked
[edit] Truce
Your offer of a truce on editing Frenchy royalty-related articles is welcome and accepted. I will take responsibility for explaining on a talk page my objections rather than immediately reverting, subject to the condition that issues already brought to your attention in the same or other articles will be reverted if unaccompanied by a Talk page rationale. I've already recorded repeated objections to 1. unsourced allegations (e.g. that I've never seen before; that seem unlikely; or that seem undocumentable) are likely to be deleted unless properly sourced 2. redundancies (if it's in a box on the page, it's likely to be deleted from the text: I don't usually care which one it's in, so feel free to choose -- realizing that other editors may have different preferences) 3. excess (details which belong in another person's article [e.g. parent, spouse, child], or which describe hard-to-verify details [e.g. "She felt envious": unless it's a quote from a diary, correspondence, or an eye-witness -- how is it possible to know what someone who died hundreds of years ago "felt" or "thought"? Let's stick to what they said or did]), 4. gallicization (names and titles, yes [but descendants of sovereigns -- Lorraine, Savoy, Modena, etc -- shouldn't be gallicized, unless their branch was naturalized in France]; well-known phrases, yes; untranslatable terms, yes; for the sake of a more "authentic" sound or "feel", not usually and subject to deletion -- again, other editors will have their own ideas]). I look forward to better mutual cooperation -- and better Wiki articles. Thanks. FactStraight (talk) 05:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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