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Contents 1 Overview of year articles 2 BCE/CE vs. astronomical systems: confusion about Year 0 3 The entire history of IslamoJudaeoChristianity is relegated to the term Millennialists?! 4 Gregorian Calendar vs. "Common Era Calendar"

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[edit] BCE/CE vs. astronomical systems: confusion about Year 0

This article has for some time implied that the Common Era system contains a Year 0, making it sensible to view the 3rd Millennium as starting on 1 January 2000, not 1 January 2001, if you use the Common Era system. An external link to an article by Peter Meyer has been supplied to justify this point.

It may be that Mr. Meyer is the only one who views the Common Era system this way. The other authorities I can find, including Wikipedia's own article on the topic, all maintain that 1 CE was immediately preceded by 1 BCE, and that (N) BC = (N) BCE, not (N-1) BCE. The original hyperlink to the Common Era article, therefore, refuted the very assertion it was included to support.

The astronomical year numbering system does include a Year 0, and for very good reason, because it's a system of time measurement, not a system of year counting. So the 3rd Millennium of the era beginning with astronomical Year 0 does begin on 1 January 2000. I have edited the article to reflect this and eliminate a misconception about the Common Era system.

The year 0 is either considered not a part of any millenium, or a part of the first millenium BCE (since year 0 CE is the same as year 1 BC). I have updated the article accordingly.

Those who want to debate this issue are directed to the talk pages for Common Era and Year 0, where various people have tried to find support for the concept of the year 0 CE, with little success except Peter Meyer's article. --Sharpner 00:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The entire history of IslamoJudaeoChristianity is relegated to the term Millennialists?!

I clicked on "3rd Millennium" to see what it would say about 65% of the world's population seeing it as a time of transition before the end of the world, and there was one line, saying "some millennialists and anarchists believe..." I'm sorry, but anyone who believes the Bible or the Torah or the Koran, even those who take them as 90% metaphor, generally believe that the history of man's consciousness on earth started "around" 4000 BC and will last 7000 years, with the Messiah, whoever he is, returning at the beginning of the 7th millennium, i.e. somewhere "around" 2000 BC. And IslamoJudaeoChristianity covers 70% of the population of the earth! That surely deserves more than a passing sarcastic reference. --Mrcolj 13:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but you're overstating the prevalence of this belief within these religions -- or at least within Christianity. There are plenty of Christians who don't necessarily believe that the 3rd millennium is when this transition will occur. Jesus himself was pretty explicit that the time cannot and should not be identified or predicted: See Matthew 24:36. --Sharpner 05:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gregorian Calendar vs. "Common Era Calendar"

Note to the several editors who have tried to insert this inaccuracy in the article from time to time: the endpoints of the millennia do not change depending on whether you use the Gregorian Calendar or the "Common Era Calendar." Actually there is no such thing as a "Common Era Calendar." The Common Era is not a calendar but a calendar era, and the Gregorian Calendar actually uses it. Also -- see discussion above -- there is no Year 0 in the Common Era, so you don't get to claim that the "3rd Millennium" spans 2000-2999 provided you use this so-called "Common Era Calendar."

The years 2000 through 2999 do constitute a millennium, which you can call the "2000s" if you want. (You can even call it the "current millennium," as long as you recognize that the current millennium is any period of 1000 consecutive years that includes the present moment, including, for example, the one that started with April 1, 1657 and will end with March 31, 2657.) Just don't call it the "3rd Millennium" without further elaboration, because people will assume it's the 3rd millennium of some period they're interested in or familiar with. 2000-2999 is the 3rd millennium of the period that began on January 1, 1 BCE whether you reckon with the Gregorian Calendar, the Common Era, or (as everyone does these days) both. The problem is that most people will assume you mean the period that began on January 1, 1 CE. --Sharpner 00:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)