User talk:124.168.103.185

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[edit] Re: Any particular reason for this page move?

Action: moved Sean Williams (Boston College) to Sean Williams (New Jersey Nets) Rationale: "He now plays for the Nets"

Hi, did you fully think through why your logic when you left me a message?

• So what if Williams is traded or waived by the Nets? Wouldn't the thought process here be that when someone references this transaction on his article, they will also rename his Wikipedia page?

• And so what if the Sean Williams (Syracuse) starts playing for the Nets in a couple of years time? We can use the middle initial of their names. And this is a huge if he ends up with the Nets. My question is what if another 'Sean Williams' is recruited to play basketball at BC?

There is no rule of thumb when it comes to professional athletes needing to reference their college name in their article. Look at the disambig page for Steve Smith. A lot of Steve Smiths in pro-sports and none of them use their college name in their article titles.

Also there are only a handful of current New Jersey Nets players per year, but there are thousands of student athletes per year. Granted 95% of these athletes are not notable, but there are much greater odds that a student athlete will come through with that same name in Syracuse or BC then winding up with the Nets. So, for now, I think Sean Williams (New Jersey Nets) will be an acceptable Wikipedia article name while he is the only Sean Williams on the Nets. Have a wonderful day.--Endless Dan 22:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, to answer your question, I did fully think through why my logic when I left you a message. Now my question to you - why did you use the apparent "exception to the rule" of Steve Smith to illustrate your point? I mean I realise there's no rule of thumb as you say, but that doesn't mean there's no ideal way of doing things.

Your statement:

"So what if Williams is traded or waived by the Nets? Wouldn't the thought process here be that when someone references this transaction on his article, they will also rename his Wikipedia page?"

So every time he moves teams someone moves his page? What a stupid thought process. Do you not see the inanity you endorse? An ad hoc process whereby a trail of disambiguation pages, some double-linking to other disambiguation pages, is kicked off just because he is traded, waived, or god forbid, dies? e.g. "Sean Williams (deceased basketball player), links to Sean Williams (Chicago Bulls)", which links to "Sean Williams (Panathanaikos)", which links to.. etc. It goes on. My point is, had you not made the page-move, it would not have caused potential problems - "Sean Williams (Boston College)" was fine as is. In other words, no matter what happens to his career, he has already played for Boston College - so.. again, why move the page? Have a wonderful day. --124.168.103.185 (talk) 04:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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