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Contents 1 Man, how dare I! :) 2 Mail 3 ArbCom election 4 Blacklist 5 Signpost updated for December 3rd, 2007. 6 New pages patrol... 7 Return of the sock 8 Okie 9 deck the halls with project templates 10 THANK YOU! 11 IP unblock 12 ~*Bonk*~ 13 Your welcome 14 My page 15 Replaceable fair use Image:Beretta-xtrema2.png 16 Great success! 17 Signpost updated for December 10th, 2007. 18 Really, really bad haikus from a new admin 19 Signpost updated for December 17th, 2007. 20 USRD Newsletter - Volume 1, Issue 17 21 SQL 22 Cobi's RFA 23 Page salting 24 Deletion of Criticisms of Einstein's Theory of Relativity 25 Re:CardStock 26 The reason for the need for history cleanup on WP:ACC on the 6th 27 RE: Your Deletion 28 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3 29 Possible linkspam problem 30 Sockpuppet on Akins High School 31 Message from LDEJRuff 32 Firestar 33 Need help to make a bot 34 CSD question 35 Happy Holidays 36 Signpost updated for December 26th, 2007. 37 Thanks for supporting my candidateship 38 A new flavor of SALT 39 RfA thanks

Man, how dare I! :)

[1] :) Jmlk17 06:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, well, they sure told you! SQL^{Query me!} 06:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Question... I saw you SALTed the page with Twinkle. How can I do that?  :) Jmlk17 06:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Add this to your monobook (I think):

importScript('User:AzaToth/salt.js');

Cool, thank ya! Jmlk17 06:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Anytime! :) SQL^{Query me!} 07:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Man, you just upped my production time when it came to be patrolling on the backlog! :) Jmlk17 07:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Salt adds flavor to Wikipedia when you order number 303! Ariel♥Gold 07:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Mail

I've replied, kitten. Enjoy! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 17:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom election

I want to sincerely thank you for your support. Unfortunately under 12 hours have passed in the election process and you are in a minority of 4 supports to 29 opposes, so my candidacy is clearly going nowhere and I have struck myself out of the election. Perhaps next time - thanks again. Stifle (talk) 11:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Blacklist

Thanks a lot for the help there it is appreciate. However can I ask you to please log any entries that you make. This may seem a little irritating but in 6 or 12 months time the rationale may be impossible to find and the listing will then be removed by someone. I've just had to do exactly that on a Meta listing than no one logged! Let me know if I can help - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Seriously - the help is appreciated. But I get very slightly irritated (!!) at removing (valid?) blacklistings cos I can't find evidence, cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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New pages patrol...

Hey, I've gotta ask -- Why would you mark Rory westrup as patrolled [2]? It was either pure vandalism, an attack page, or a serious BLP. I mean, things like "weiner head" should set off alarms. As should claims about his mother associated with various colorful activity. SQL^{Query me!} 10:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Because the page was already marked for speedy deletion. That's what patrolled means - someone has looked at it and made a decision. Patrol does not imply "approval". WWGB 11:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, oic, sorry bout that then (different time zones... it read to me like it was patrolled long before it was tagged... I was way wrong) :) Long night, Thanks! SQL^{Query me!} 11:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Return of the sock

It looks like another sockpuppet has been created. Take a look at NoMorePolitics talk contribs as relates to Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_MoreGunsInSchools Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Azurbanipal on the Frank Lasee article. There are more than are on the actual list. Arthurrh 19:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Another good catch! Thanks! Bagged and tagged. SQL^{Query me!} 19:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Additionally LetsGoPitt talk contribs is blocked but not listed in Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_MoreGunsInSchools and another possible is JaneParadine talk contribs

Not a problem :) I got LetsGoPitt, you can feel free to tag 'em, btw, if you want. I'll keep an eye on Jane SQL^{Query me!} 20:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

See the latest - he's relentless. User:SwimmingHole contribs on Frank Lasee - he's putting the same non-existent category that User:NoMorePolitics did. We may need another temporary semi-protection again. Arthurrh 01:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

So he's been tagged, but somehow it's not in the Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_MoreGunsInSchools. An IP address has now been marked as well 72.33.93.177. Arthurrh 13:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed! I think it's listing the wrong user as the sockmaster.... I adjusted the IP's block, too, to all users, not just anons, I'm fairly sure that's where this guy's coming from. It's a short block, however. I also noticed, that the article's been re semi-protected, for another month... That should help a bit. :) Good work! :) SQL^{Query me!} 13:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

About modifying the block, that's no problem. It was quite obvious that was the sock's IP. Spellcast 20:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Okie

So what do you think? Ariel♥Gold 22:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That is AWESOME! Thank you! :) Just what I needed right now! :) SQL^{Query me!} 03:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

deck the halls with project templates

I noticed that SQLBot decorated Talk:Paganism with the Christianity WikiProject banner. I'm assuming that's because Paganism is in Category:Christian history. I went ahead and un-decorated it. Do I need to put the page on some kind of list or something so it doesn't happen again, or is it a one-time deal? I'm bot-illiterate. - AdelaMae ^{(t - c - wpn)} 10:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Nah, it was a one-time run, and there were a few screw-ups (I thought I got them all, bad search pattern...) Thanks, for letting me know! :) SQL^{Query me!} 10:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU!

Thanks for your assistance in the block!--Kushan I.A.K.J (talk) 10:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

IP unblock

Info really I think this is an open proxy but can't prove it at present. Probably being "playful", just thought you might like to know - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up :) I'm checking it out right now, myself... SQL^{Query me!} 11:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

It is listed here (where I found it) but I can't prove it. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I tested it, it appears to be an open proxy (on port 80). It seems like we trust it's XFF headers, however, as when I edit with it, the IP I'm using shows up. Can you confirm? SQL^{Query me!} 11:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Nope you definitely have the techy edge on me, my approach is rather blunter - I look for listings. Sorry but thanks for the work --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, slight problem :) I'm behind a transparent proxy here, so, that's why my IP was showing up :) Turned that off to test some more... SQL^{Query me!} 12:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

D'oh! Turns out it's not a working proxy :( Although, it IS running Squid on port 80. However, it's Squid seems to be set to ignore requests from unauthorised IP addresses. SQL^{Query me!} 12:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

~*Bonk*~

You've got mail! Ariel♥Gold 21:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome

Thank you for your welcome. As you have identified, I am an old long-time contributor who after a long break am returning. For privacy reasons I have elected to take on a new user name and keep my userpage low-key. Takenages (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

My page

Thank you for unblocking me. Please could I have my user page, which some admin deleted, replaced? There was no harmful content on there and it's allowed for m to adjust that, right? Is it possible to restore a version of the page? Thanks for all the cooperation, --ELLIOT PRIOR (talk) 13:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but, we're really not supposed to overturn other admins deletions / blocks / protections, unless it's an emergency. I'd reccomend one of two routes:

A) Just ask the deleting admin, on their talkpage, here: User_talk:Khukri. I bet they'll undelete it, without an issue.

B) Failing that, ask at Deletion Review. You really should try A) first, however.

Hope this helps, SQL^{Query me!} 13:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually Khukri's page was where I first tried! However it is semi-protected and so could you pass my above message on to him please? --ELLIOT PRIOR (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC).

Oh, right, I forgot about that, sorry... I'll let them know SQL^{Query me!} 17:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Beretta-xtrema2.png

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Which specific free image is it replaceable by? SQL^{Query me!} 15:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Great success!

Thanks, SQL! I'll be sure to do so as soon as I finish spamming the talk pages. :-) Best, — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 08:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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Really, really bad haikus from a new admin

Setting new lows in thank-you spam:

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SQL

If someone named SQL could NOT frustrate me, then you wouldn't be living up to your username. I had 3 simultaneous ANI's, which one I deserved, so my mindset was not good at all. I didn't take any offense to your participation. Sometimes I need a smack on the head. We're all good. the_undertow ^talk 05:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Cobi's RFA

Buddy, no worries. It was my fault, responding to an editor without checking their talk page to realise they've already had a block for incivility. There seems to have been a tonne of wikidrama over the last few days! I'm hoping we're all going to move on. You've got my upmost respect, I see your thoughful comments all over the place, and it's a pleasure to interact with you. Pedro :  Chat  08:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Page salting

That's odd. I was trying to salt the page myself, but it does not appear to have been effective (it does not appear in the "what links here" page. Is there anything extra you had to do to make the block effective, for example page refreshes or cache purges? -- The Anome (talk) 10:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Update: the link now seems to have propagated. Server lag, I presume. -- The Anome (talk) 10:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for fixing it. That's much better: now I can see what I was doing wrong. -- The Anome (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Criticisms of Einstein's Theory of Relativity

Would you please explain how you considered my beginning article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_Einstein%27s_Theory_of_Relativity, to be a copyright violation. Or was your stated reason,CSD G12, just an excuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RAmesbury (talk • contribs) 19:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It's a word for word copy from here. Please read Wikipedia:Copyright, and, Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Thanks. SQL^{Query me!} 21:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:CardStock

Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for the info.  Sirkad  _talk  ^sign  03:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The reason for the need for history cleanup on WP:ACC on the 6th

Thank you for nominating me for adminship.

The reason that I needed a history cleanup of WP:ACC at that time was actually a very simple reason, but I didn't want to mention it until I knew that Oversight had dealt with it. The reason was that I saw a request that had a password listed. I decided that I must act carefully to minimize the chance that some user would see it:

1. The page needed to have an innocent looking edit (to anyone who didn't take too close a look at the differences) in which I remove the passowrd. I successfully created the requested account, and left a comment about that - and removed the password.
2. I needed to have the page deleted - I didn't trust Oversight to get to it quickly enough, so I felt that an "innocent" history cleanup was needed.

I did sent oversight an e-mail soon after placing the speedy tag, but I couldn't make sure they had removed the revision until after I became an admin - and my top priority was to keep everyone away from that revision as much as possible. Now that it was removed, I feel that I can reveal the information - and that I owe you an explanation. Od Mishehu 07:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great work! :) Now I'm really glad I nominated you! Had I known about that, however, I would have deleted it a little more 'quietly', and, gotten in touch with an oversighter directly to have it resolved :) Either way, the project won big on that one...

Hey -- if you use IRC, I'm generally in #wikipedia-unblock-en. We could always use more eyes there! :) Again, congrats on the adminship! SQL^{Query me!} 07:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Your Deletion

As a reason for deleting my Wiki article "Criticisms of Einstein's Theory of Relativity" you allege that the text is "a word for word copy" from a www.antirelativity.com discussion page which I posted on September 25. For your information, in August I wrote all the text that I included in this Wiki article. On September 24,I first tried to contribute it to the Wiki article on History of Relativity Theory, the edit history of which is here, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_special_relativity&diff=prev&oldid=160028141, in yellow. However, I did not then have the time to learn the necessary mark-up language. So the following day, September 25, I posted it on the antirelativity.com discussion page essentially asking if anyone could post it for me. I have since learned mark-up. Although I again attempted to contribute it to this same article, I have recently come under the impression that this text would better serve the public as the beginning of a separate Wiki article. The Antirelativity.com registration agreement does not include a transfer of copyright notice or agreement of any kind. Therefore, this text is mine and its use by me in a Wiki article cannot be a copyright violation. And therefore, your reason for deleting this Wiki article is groundless. I respectfully request that you terminate your deletion and reinstate this article.RAmesbury (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

SQL, also note " A college student who accepts this task will be eligible for financial assistance." - so RAmesbury could either be that author Raleigh Amesbury, or such a student having received financial assistance. No further comment needed I guess? Cheers, DVdm (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm fine with it, if another admin wants to undelete it, for any reason whatsoever. Between xmas shopping, and, a 16 hour shift tonight, I won't be on for a day or so. Heck, maybe Deletion review would be a good place to start. I've really got to go right now, however. SQL^{Query me!} 17:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Thank you for your support (and the refresh button!). The nom was quite a ride! And a very close call, but I'm very happy that the third time turned out to be the charm.  :) Now, especially since it was such a controversial nom, I'm going to take things very slowly. Plus of course it's the holiday season, so there are plenty of off-wiki distractions! I'm working my way through the exercises at the "admin school", and will phase very gradually into my use of tools. Thanks again, and have good holidays, Elonka 01:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Possible linkspam problem

I saw this find-a-grave link appear on one of the pages I watch, and look at the user contribs shows a LOT of links to this website. It looks to me like linkspam - what are your thoughts? Is there a place to report linkspam problems? I haven't had an issue like this to this extent before. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 22:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Seems to have knocked it off in the last day or so :) I'll keep an eye out either way SQL^{Query me!} 20:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I was just curious, because to me it looks like linkspam and should probably be removed, but I wanted to see if someone else agreed before doing that. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 21:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppet on Akins High School

Looks like User:Crawdad24 (talk) (*contribs) is another sockpuppet of User:Crawdad22 - see Akins High School here. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked! Sorry about the delay... This one's pretty obvious. SQL^{Query me!} 20:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Next round: Akins High School User:Crawdad25 (talk) (contribs) AliveFreeHappy (talk) 04:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked, and, page semi-protected. SQL^{Query me!} 12:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Message from LDEJRuff

Hey, pages should never be deleted, nor will they be merged, so I'm recreating most of the character articles and category. ~~LDEJRuff~~ (talk) 8:54, 18 December 2007 (EDT)

Without any specifics, I can't say I know what specifically you're talking about. Thanks for the note.... I think! :) SQL^{Query me!} 14:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The category I'm talking about is the one for the list of characters in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and the character articles are for most of the show's main characters. I hope you'll understand. ~~LDEJRuff~~ (talk) 9:44, 18 December 2007 (EDT)

Well, it's not like deleting it was anything personal to me -- I was just fulfilling a CSD request, on a blank category. Best of luck with that category. SQL^{Query me!} 20:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Firestar

Great photo addition! I had a second picture on that article but someone's panties were on too tight and they removed it—Image:ElmoErnieHostages.jpg. Some people just don't have sense of humor. Good work. —MJCdetroit (talk) 14:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, can't imagine why that one got removed... BTW -- with your finger on the trigger like that, I hope it's not pointed at anything you value off-screen... Is that SKS a chineese Type 56, by chance? Glad you liked my picture, it's the first serious one I've tried, for the encyclopedia. Thanks! SQL^{Query me!} 14:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Just my wife holding the SKS! I took that photo as my myspace default photo a while ago, but don't worry I've got enough common sense to check that they are not loaded!...

I'd have to check on the SKS to see if it is a Type 56, but I don't think so. —MJCdetroit (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Need help to make a bot

Hello SQL, I'm planning to make a bot for updating featured portal candidates. However, I don't know much about bots. Can you give me a hand? (See Wikipedia talk:Creating a bot#Planning to make a new bot for details) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

CSD question

Take a look at talk. It looks like a speedy candidate to me, but I wasn't sure under the image categories available what/how to flag it. Suggestions? AliveFreeHappy (talk) 19:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I deleted it as a WP:CSD#G10 (the talkpage that is) as far as the image goes, not much we can do, it's tagged as a disputed image, if no source / copyright is added in 7 days, it'll be deletable per I4. SQL^{Query me!} 19:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

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