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Contents 1 Vandals blocked 2 Nowrap 3 Colours on county templates 4 Links recently added in the euro pages 5 Speedy deletion of Farrell McElgunn 6 Section headings 7 This is long overdue 8 WT Cosgrave 9 Bertie 10 Cowen 11 References 12 Members of Dáil Éireann by session template. 13 Bono/Finglas 14 Need help - an argument 15 Thanks 16 Cats

Vandals blocked

Hi Snappy

Thanks for the msg on my talk, and sorry to see you having to put up withis :)

I have blocked the two vandal-IPs, and semi-protected Phoenix Park. Would you like me to semi-protect your talk page for a while? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that, BHG, your help is appreciated. Unless the vandals come back again, I think my talk page should be ok. They've probably got bored and moved on by now. Snappy56 (talk) 07:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

They was students, so have probably gone off the pub or to facebook, or wherever it is that students go these days :)

Anyway, if there's more hassle, lemme know. Talk page vandalism is a real nuisance, so I'd b glad to help. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Nowrap

Hi Snappy

Why are you removing the {{nowrap}} templates from Template:IrishGovernmentDepartments and lotsd of others which have just popped up on my watchlist? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have checked the diffs more carefully! I see you are using the {{Nowrap begin}}/{{Nowrap end}} templates. I didn't know about them before, but they look like a v good idea. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries, they make it easier to read when editing a template. Snappy56 (talk) 05:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

They do indeed -- easier all round, as well as reducing the number of template calls. Definitely a good idea. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Colours on county templates

I think it's a bit much to say the green is "unreadable", it's been like that for a half year at this stage and no one else has had much trouble! I think at the most, it could be changed to a lighter green, but even that would be pushing it. Also, it's actually quite usual for each US state anyway to have its own colour, eg. the California ones are gold. --Schcambo^{aon scéal?} 11:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

The current shade of green does make it hard to view, maybe not totally unreadable but definitely not easy on the eyes. I don't think it's a good idea for each county to get its own colour, too many variations, it should be a standard colour for all counties. I changed them back to the standard navbox blue, it you don't like that colour then, a lighter shade of green is definitely necessary. I've changed Dun Laoghaire to a slightly lighter shade, this difference is subtle but crucial! Let me know what you think. If you can find another lighter shade of green, please put it in. Snappy56 (talk) 11:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't mean every county should have its own colour, I mean the whole country should have a non-standard (i.e. not blue) one, like how every US state uses one colour for all that state's counties. If you get me!
The DLR colour looks good actually. --Schcambo^{aon scéal?} 11:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I get you now. Well, the colour doesn't have to be green, one third of the national flag is orange; there's no reason everything associated with Ireland must be green! There is also St. Patrick's Blue, lets think outside the box! Snappy56 (talk) 11:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Blue is a lovely colour, but it's not exactly a brilliant choice as the background for blue links.

In a lot of Ireland, orange is not likely to be acceptable colour except as part of the flag. So how about a compromise of a green border for the whole box: I mean the thin line around the whole thing, rather than the background to the template header. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if that's possible, actually? Anyways, the new green looks quite nice, I think. --Schcambo^{aon scéal?} 19:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any visible difference in the shades of green between these two versions ... though, to be honest, the std navbox header is really too dark a blue for adequate constrast. The best solution, I suggest, would be a much lighter shade of green. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Links recently added in the euro pages

Hi Snappy! I checked the pages, and although SPAM, it seems to be a very useful forum. I have no problems keeping them. Any rules in WP against this type of pages? Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes there are, see WP:External links#Links normally to be avoided, No. 10 Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace or Fan sites), discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), USENET newsgroups or e-mail lists. These are the rules. Snappy56 (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks! Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Farrell McElgunn

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. J Readings (talk) 07:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

A simple message here would have sufficed without nominating the article for deletion. It was an obvious error in putting the Wikiproject info on the main instead of the talk page, which I was in the process of correcting until you barged in. Cop yourself on in future! Snappy56 (talk) 08:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the welcome message but after 3 years and 11,000 edits, I don't actually need it! Snappy56 (talk) 08:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Section headings

Hi Snappy

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Internal_links, section headings in articles should not contain links. I have therefore reverted your last change to MEPs for Ireland 1984-1989, and two other MEP list articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I wasn't aware of that. Must re-read the MoS! Snappy56 (talk) 12:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

It's too huge to read in one go, what with all the subpages. I generally only read chunks of it when someone tells me I have gotten it wrong, or if something looks wrong and I need to check. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

This is long overdue

Moved to Barnstars

Thank you very much, BHG. It is much appreciated. Snappy56 (talk) 23:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

WT Cosgrave

Hi I notice you edited the article "Government of the 30th Dáil" by making the remark "let's not write WT Cosgrave out of history". As I had earlier made a comment that Mr. Cowen was the 11th Taoiseach and that WT Cosgrave was never Taoiseach I just want to make sure that you had not misunderstood my intention. It think it is fair to count Mr Cowen as the 12th Head of Government unless we want to start a debate about the leaders in the first three Daileanna and their exact status! It is also fair to count Mr. Cowen as the 11th Taoiseach because it is historical fact. By stating that historical fact, it was never my intention to write WT Cosgrave out of history just simply to put right an error put about in many places yesterday when it was stated that Mr. Cowen was the "12th Taoiseach". 12th Head of Government is the correct compromise! Apologies if I caused any offence. By the way I'm interested in Irish politics articles and Irish articles in general and contribute when I have time. If there is anything I can help with let me know Rigger30 (talk) 18:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, what I meant by that comment was that although Cowen is 11th Taoiseach, the position of head of government of Ireland dates from 1922 not 1937. (Taking 1922 as date becuase that is when a modern Irish state acheived de jure and de facto independence and international recognition.) Therefore W.T. Cosgrave shoule be counted too, he was Head of government for 10 years longer than many Taoisigh. Eamon de Valera was also President of the Executive Council from 1932 to 1937. The change was a largely symbolic name change, although there is some Chairman vs. Chief debate. The Irish Independent has been referring to Cowen as the 12th Taoiseach, which is technically inaccurate but factually correct if they are including W.T. Cosgrave as head of government. No offence was caused by your editing. There is always plenty to edit on Irish politics articles, the more editors the merrier! Snappy56 (talk) 04:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Bertie

Thanks for making me laugh, This edit summary elegantly used sarcasm without being rude :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I'm here all week! Snappy56 (talk) 10:26, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Cowen

Sorry about messing up the Brian cowen page ,didnt notice the template was breaking stuff ,i've fixed it see User:Gnevin/sandbox2 mind if we add ? Gnevin (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

If it is working properly go ahead, and set the title to Brian Cowen. Snappy56 (talk) 08:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

The font is smaller as its in a smaller area as far as i can see Gnevin (talk) 07:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

References

Thanks for the tip. It will save a lot of typing! I've already fixed one page and will try to fix the others soon. Dneale52 (talk) 09:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Members of Dáil Éireann by session template.

I have removed this from pages. Dneale52 (talk) 11:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Bono/Finglas

Hi. I've noticed a few anons have added Bono to the "list of famous people from Finglas" every now and again. Personally I agree that it's probably not entirely accurate to say he's from Finglas - #10 Cedarwood being "officially" in Glasnevin. However, without getting into the age old Dublin game of "re-classifying" one's parish to get the more desirable address, a case could be made that Cedarwood estate is in Ballymun, Glasnevin or Finglas. (In fact the Finglas local electoral area has its borders in Cedarwood.) Anyway, I'm not suggesting it be included right now, but if it continues to cause wars of attrition, there may be a case for a compromise wording like: Bono is from Cedarwood road, which borders with Finglas. Or something similar. Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 09:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I think its only people from Finglas who ever add Bono. Bono, himself has never mentioned Finglas as the place he grew up (in fact as far I can see he never mentions it at all!), he mentions Ballymun alright. If someone can provide a reference saying Bono grew up in Finglas then fair enough but just because Dublin suburban boundaries change and the house where Bono grew up may now be considered to be in Finglas, doesn't make Bono from Finglas. Snappy56 (talk) 09:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Need help - an argument

Snappy56, I do not know if you can help. This is the second time a same user is removing content I am writing, just mentioning a reference to a commemorative coin (please check Talk:Joseph Haydn as a reference of the previous argument). This time in article Schloss Esterházy, the same user (with the help of another user) is constantly reverting my changes and is asking for another discussion. Can you please pitch in? Sorry to bother, Miguel.mateo (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

BTW, if possible, please pitch in here WP:ANI as well. Miguel.mateo (talk) 00:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I have commented in Schloss Esterházy and proposed a compromise. I don't know why those editors are against inclusion of coin image; they are relevant and there is established precedent, but there are all sorts on Wikipedia! Snappy56 (talk) 05:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi there, once again.

This time I write to give you a BIG THANKS for your support and a HUGE APOLOGY for all the trouble created with my contributions in non-numismatics related articles. I was honestly just trying to bring more traffic to the commemorative coins articles (which for me is, obviously, fascinating), but after a lot of thoughts I have realized that there is any sort of Wikipedians out there. Hence I have changed my views.

I will continue putting information here and there of commemorative coins as long as is notable and relevant enough, but I will not fight any more if the content is removed or changed. I might try in the talk page to ask for a consensus, but will not die for it. Instead I will concentrate all my efforts in trying to finish the "Euro gold and silver commemorative coins" series; which is already in a very good shape, thanks to people like you.

BTW, I have proposed Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Belgium) for peer review, hoping that can be promoted to a featured article. The final goal will be to create a Euro Coins Collector's Portal with all the series and information from articles that you have contributed, and (if possible) get it promoted to a featured Portal. If you are interesting in helping in this process, please comment here. I hope it gets promoted, and after this learning process, I am planning to propose immediately Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Ireland) and Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria), which are almost completed from my stand point.

Once again thank for your support. Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Cats

Mea culpa. It is of course, "Members of the X Dail" that is the subcategory I should have referred to.

Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 10:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)