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Contents 1 Re: Spinies 2 Re: Voice actors 3 Welcome to Esperanza! 4 MK image feedback requested 5 September Esperanza Newsletter 6 MK: Armageddon discussion page 7 Hey 8 One more thing 9 TJ 10 Re: Pokémon Base Stats 11 My Apologies 12 Caption competition 13 :) 14 Image tagging for Image:Pinkcrown.png 15 Re: A heads up 16 Image copyright problem with Image:PrincessCrown.PNG 17 Re: Esperanza 18 Congrats! 19 Cool

[edit] Re: Spinies

I wrote:
Message from User:SaturnYoshi regarding Spinies. Paper Mario: TTYD does not specifically state that Spinies are Koopas. Only that they belong to the Koopa Tribe. It could then be argued that EVERY enemy in Super Mario Bros. belongs to said tribe. Meanwhile, the official guide for the New Super Mario Bros. from Nintendo Power groups Spinies with Buzzy Beetles and Spike Tops, therefor classifying Spinies as beetles. Sorry for posting this directly on your page, I had no other way to contact you.

First, I want to point out that if you want to contact someone, you do it on the discussion page for their user page. That's what they're there for. Editing the user page itself can be seen as vandalism. Just for future reference. ;) And you can sign it with four tildes in a row - a tilde is that wavy thing ~

Now then, PMTTYD calls Spinies "spike-covered Koopas" in addition to "members of the Koopa tribe. They have never been described as beetles (I've checked the manuals and scripts of the Tattles for both Paper Marios), nor have Buzzys been called turtles. ...Unless it says that in the NSMB guide. I didn't buy it. Just how are they "grouped"? Is it divided into sections, or is Spiny just next to the beetles? Agent CH 01:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I wrote:
The player's guide for New Super Mario Bros. groups all the games enemies under different headlines. For example, "The Goomba Gang" consists of the Goomba, Paragoomba and the Mini Goomba. "Koopa Troopers" lists the red and green Koopa Troopas and their Paratroopa variants. Buzzy Beetle, Spike Top and Spiny are all listed under the heading "Beastly Beetles". -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 02:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC).

Hmm. Be that as it may, they were called Koopas in-game, and last I checked, information given within the fiction itself trumps other sources in terms of canonicity. Agent CH 16:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I wrote:
The actual wording used in Paper Mario: TTYD in the Tattle Log states that they are spike-backed "members" of the Koopa Tribe. I checked the game myself. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC).

Ah, but when Goombella is actually Tattling a Spiny, she says it's a spike-covered Koopa. Agent CH 03:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I wrote:
Well, I'll leave it at that. It's just that the Spiny and the Buzzy Beetle have a lot of similar characteristics both physical and how they act. Such as crawling on ceilings. I won't stop researching the matter, though, and I hope that this will be clarified in the near future. So for now, I'll just go by what Goombella says. Also, the Buzzy Beetle page says that they are related to Koopas, so wouldn't that render this whole argument pointless? Now the question is, Are Buzzies related to Koopas?? -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC).

I'm not sure where that would come from, aside from the whole shell thing. While checking info for Spiny, I also checked for Buzzy Beetle info (manuals, Tattles, even Player's Guides just in case), and none of them said they are Koopas, or related to them. Agent CH 14:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Voice actors

I wrote:
I noticed that you feel that listing the voice actor for Kirby is not pointless. If knowing Kirby's voice actor important, then why not the voice actors for Mario, Link, Pikachu and maybe even Wario and Snake? It's just a thought, though maybe that's why Comrade Pajitnov felt the need to delete it from Kirby's section. Anyway, I'd like to know what you think. Take care. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I think they should all have them, but Kirby is the only profile I wrote, and it takes a lot of watching to remove all of the awful writing. I wrote some pretty good writing, and came back a week later, and the quality was awful! I'm just not vigilant enough to sit on all the bios. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 20:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

New subject:

I just noticed that you had put Jennifer Hale's name back in Samus Aran's article; I had put it there myself several weeks ago, but it's been removed several times. I now understand why; Wikipedia's rules doesn't allow itself to be used as a source unless the page in question has cited material, and her article doesn't have any citations at all. In addition, the lists on the Bastila Shan and IMDb links all appear to be the same lists, and I know from personal experience that IMDb is user submission just like Wikipedia and can't exactly be proven as verifiable in this case. The only truly verifiable links in her article, her personal webpage and Voice Chasers, don't list the Metroid games in her credits. As such, really the only way of proving she was Samus's voice is a separate site related to her directly, like an agent site, or an article about her in print. Which leads to my question; you said there was an article in Game Informer about her? Arrow 18:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

My reply:
The article I'm refering to in Game Informer is titled "Behind the Mic" (Issue 161, Sept 2006 pg. 18). It features Jennifer Hale and another voice actor (Cam Clarke). A box in the middle of the page lists "notable game roles" and the Metroid Prime series is listed saying that she did voice Samus Aran in those games. I'm also going to request a complete list of her works from her website if this isn't proof enough. Hopefully it'll have what I'm after. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah; that helps. In the meantime, perhaps you can make mention of that on the Samus Aran talk page, with a link I found to that article online (despite the fact that only people with a current subscription to the magazine can see that link) and explain that the information does exist. That may quiet people for the time being and allow us to put her name in for good. Arrow 00:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

[edit] MK image feedback requested

I've submitted a logo for the Mortal Kombat WikiProject. As an active member of the project, I just wanted to drop you a line so I can get your feedback over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mortal Kombat#WikiProject Mortal Kombat Logo. Thanks! :) EVula 15:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] MK: Armageddon discussion page

Hi. I can understand why you've reverted the MK:A talk page (As I have been doing), but Armageddon Fan is not taking notice of editor's summaries. Instead of a summary, I had left him a note on the page, with the intention of removing the section after some time had passed, but you have removed it after one minute. Do you have any alternatives in passing the information on to this user? RobWill80 14:55, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Edit: Actually, you're right. It's probably easier to just keep removing his edits. Sorry for taking up your time. :) RobWill80 15:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I wrote:
Don't worry about taking up my time. I'm here to help in any way I can. If you ever run into any more problems again, feel free to ask. And if I do not know the answer, I'll do my best to find out. As far as Armageddon Fan, I suggest placing a warning on his talk page. If that doesn't work, and he is still using talk pages as forums, then we hay have to involve an Admin. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. EVula has already given him an advisory warning on his talk page, but I'll have to look up the procedure before I could issue one myself. We'll see how it goes. :) RobWill80 02:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:WARN is your friend. ;-) EVula 17:26, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, there they are. Thanks. :) RobWill80 17:48, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Follow up:
He seems to have given up. Maybe it's for the best. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

I hate to bother you, but I just joined Esperanza too, and I'm wondering how I change my sig so the "e" (or "yoshi" :P) in my name so when I type something in I won't keep having to type it all out. I've seen you can on Help pages but I can never find in anywhere in the preferences.

You might know me as the guy who kept posting the charts and fourth-gen on Legendary Pokémon. DarknessLord 00:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

My reply:
[[User:DarknessLord|Darkness]][[User:DarknessLord/Esperanza|<font color="green">Lord</font>]]

Copy this signature and put it in place of your signature under preferences. Click on "raw signature" and save. If you want to change the color of the word "Darkness" put a <font color="color"> before it and a </font> after it. The word color in quotes is where you would pick the color you want. Make sure you keep the quotation marks.

Example: If you wanted the word "Darkness" to be black, this would be your signature...
[[User:DarknessLord|<font color="black">Darkness</font>]][[User:DarknessLord/Esperanza|<font color="green">Lord</font]]

And it would look like this: DarknessLord

-SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. DarknessLord | T | C 22:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One more thing

At an entirely different meaning than my last, the evolutions of Aipom, Murkrow, and Misdreavus have been confirmed at serebii.net DarknessLord 10:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks:
And thank you for the update on Pokémon! -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. DarknessLord | T | C 22:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Now the evolutions of Togetic, the two other evolutions of Eevee, Gligar, a branch of Kirlia, and Rhydon have been confirmed at same site.

Also, an evolution of Snorunt, which forms another branching, is also confirmed. DarknessLord | T | C 21:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh my god. Now Tangela, Lickitung, Piloswine, and Yanma evo's have been confirmed. I think that sprite sheet WAS right. DarknessLord | T | C 13:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ayayay. Dusclops evo. 'Nuff said. DarknessLord | T | C 23:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, you already know, but... Magmar evo, Magneton evo, and Nosepass evo.

Gee, I guess they realized the fan's complaints with so many pre-evo's that they decided to overload on the evo's. This is my final update (probably), DarknessLord | T | C 23:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Response
Thank you again. It seems that every Pokémon has been named and confirmed now. It kind of sucks that there is no Jynx evo, though. I think that would be kind of cool. If I were to create one. I would name her Mynx and have her look even more like a woman. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

My reply to your post on my talk page: ((Thank you for posting above the template.)) Yah. I was surprised. Jynx, Magmar, and Electabuzz have always been "together", getting pre-evo's in the same version. Interesting look. I can't really think of one. DarknessLord | T | C 00:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

All that time anticipating a Magmar evolution (you have to have LeafGreen attatched to your DS to get Magby and Magmar), and the game it requires is the only main GBA Pokemon game I don't have! DarknessLord | T | C 00:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

My reply:
You don't have XD either? Magmar can be captured there, too. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 01:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Hm... all the association with the GameCube games I have is that I've rented Collo, traded new guys into my game, and traded old guys out. Ah well, I'm probably just gonna GameShark it to the Pal Park.

U know, I have been thinking up some theories, and, this is probably obvious, but... I think they're making Gold and Silver remakes in-between the third gem and Diamond and Pearl, like they did the Red/Blue remakes in between Emerald, and Ruby and Sapphire. DarknessLord | T | C 10:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I wrote:
I'll probably use an Action Replay to get Manaphy (and any other Nintendo Sponsored Event Pokémon) just because they never come close to where I live in the States. I know, I'm a bad trainer for cheating but how else do they expect me to obtain Mew, Celebi and Deoxys. I have at least one of each of the current 386 stored in my Pokémon Box. Also, I've been waiting forever for them to redo the Johto games. I'm sure there are plenty of fans out there that want them too. Here's hoping for a positive outlook on the Johto series to be the next instalments. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I only have a GameShark for the SP, which does not work well since then I can't get Arseus, Darkrai, Shyem, and Manaphy (and thus Fione). Wel, before I got FireRed I was just entering the codes for Poke's I wanted; Cloyster, Steelix, Scizor, Scyther, Haunter, Magmar, Electabuzz, Legendaries, etc. for Ruby and Sapphire, which had virtually NO way to get any Pokemon from Kanto or Johto. I have this severe glitch in my game where actually catching a Pokemon (even Level 2), would be as rare as a Shiny! And each Pokemon I catch just makes it harder. After I got my third on that list, it was nearly impossible, so I tried a Master Ball... AND IT DIDN'T WORK! Augh, that annoys me. But I've been much luckier in my other games. DarknessLord | T | C 19:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TJ

I say yes! I don't want to go overboard, but I've been waiting for someone else to say that.--Rat235478683--

[edit] Re: Pokémon Base Stats

Thanks for advicing me about the Pokémon base stats. Actually, I don't have the informations about the Pokémon's base stats. These stats are input by other users, I am just editting them. Steelz|talk 07:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Apologies

Hey, I'm here to apologize for annoying you in the Esperanza Coffee lounge. I was simply joking around, and did not mean to give you stress. I will refrain from doing so in the future. Regards. --Atomic-Super-Suit^{What Have I Done?!} 03:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caption competition

Hi SaturnYosh, congradualtions on being selected/nominated/thrown into the position of Judge for the Esperanza Caption Competition! I tis importanat that you know that:

Scores will be given out of Ten (Fifty toatal from Five judges). For:

• Originality (2)
• Humor (6)
• Image choice (2)

The winner; as well as being given a year supply of Coffee and a years supply of lounge will recive the DFRTurnip Tropy®. But then, it's not about the wining or the fabulous Turnip, it's about having a go and having some fun. Today it is the 4th so, perhaps on the 13th, it should close. That should be enough time. Judging can begin then and go for two days. It would be great if lots of people, not just those who frequent the Coffee lounge get to see and enter.

I am still working it out. Scores could be expressed perhaps in a box:

Dfrg.msc - 7/10

Husond - 8/10

IAMTHEEGGMAN - 6/10

Crazytales - 5/10

SaturnYoshi - 4/10

Total - 30/50

Just fill in! Winner has the highest score.

Here is a template you can use:

Captions This User is a Judge in the Esperanza Caption Competition. Only large bribes are accepted.

Feel free to talk to me about anything more. Thanks, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 08:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Judging Commences within the next 48 Hours

I'm still working on the template thing though, they should be ready soon. Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 22:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  :)

That's good you threw a few warnings at other jeeves.--Jeeves 7000 21:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: A heads up

I wrote:
I have a crazy feeling that User:A Man In Black might revert all of our work on the Legendary Pokémon page. Starting tomorrow, I suppose. Hopefully not, but damn! That was a lot of work! -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like we're a little too late. The idiot slashed it down to a stub!

And what gave you that prediction? DarknessLord | T | C

...

AUGH! I can't take it anymore *prepares to revert* DarknessLord | T | C 10:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I dragged you into this... but that jerk just can't do that without first telling! He's an admin who actually turns a page into a stud. What the...? DarknessLord | T | C 10:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

My response:
When I was online last night I saw on my watchlist that he thought that the page looked terrible, and that he was going to do something about it. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 20:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

But come on, he could have given us some mercy. DarknessLord | T | C 21:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

My grief:
Waaaa!!... It took me forever to upload those images. And for you to add all the colors, and for me to change the font colors in the group boxes to black. Now I have a bunch of sprites in my sandbox that I can't do anything with. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I KNOW! Look what I've added to the talk page... it makes me so angry I just wanna keep re-adding everything until Man in Black just STOPS! DarknessLord | T | C 21:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Has Man in Black made a response yet? If so, don't tell me what he said. It probably has to do with scolding me for taking things so personally or something. DarknessLord | T | C 21:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

My resolve:
It wasn't scolding, but you hit the nail on the head. It's okay, we can fix the page. We just don't need images and tables anymore. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 22:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

And virtually everything else that doesn't fit his bill. DarknessLord | T | C 00:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Esperanza

Heh heh thanks. :P DarknessLord | T | C 10:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!

Moved to Main User Page. Thanks again, Highway!! -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cool

I've never had an adoptee before... Monkey13 is a lucky new user :P... DarknessLord | T | C 23:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

ARGH! How did you adopts someone so quickly?! Lucky... DarknessLord | T | C 00:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC) DarknessLord | T | C 00:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

HELLO?! Where are you, dude?! Ah, you're always dead now. Never mind. I've asked P L Logan.

Do you have to ask, or do you just put them up as adoptee/adopter?

Geez. 5 posts, no response. :P DarknessLord | T | C 12:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)