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[edit] Goran Pandev
Pandev was born in Macedonia that in 1983 was in federation with some other countries, but it is the same as you write that someone who was born in Germany, was born in the European Union —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.136.96 (talk) 16:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Pandev was born in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, one of the constituent republics of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The Republic of Macedonia did not exist until at least 1991-09-08, when Pandev was eight years old. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you insist with this? Anyway he was born in Macedonia and that's the most important —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.136.96 (talk) 18:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why do I insist on accuracy in Wikipedia? Is that a rhetorical question? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- But you insist with the Macedonian people mostly. We Macedonians have enough problems with the sick greek nationalism -talk —Preceding comment was added at 18:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, I insist on Goran Pandev because that article is on my watchlist. What other "sick greek nationalism" edits have I made? I have only ever spent a weekend vacation in Athens once, but that hardly makes me a propaganda-pusher. I live on the other side of the world. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- The "sick greek nationalism" wasn't reffered to you. Anyway, you have edited an article about the Olympics in 2004 regarding Macedonia with the name FYR Macedonia. I sad that I hope you're not one of the greek antimacedonian propaganda-pushers, and I'm glad that you're not. You see, they are doing everything and everywhere to destroy my country. Wikipedia unfortunately is one of those places. There are much more greek wikipedia administrators than macedonian administrators so we can not do anything about that. 85.18.136.96 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, for the Olympic articles, we consistently use "FYR Macedonia". This is consistent with WP:Manual of Style (Macedonia-related articles), since the International Olympic Committee uses "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (e.g. per their website and per official reports (like this one from 1996). There is no anti-Macedonia bias involved here. If you can get the MOS changed, then that would be the only way to change the way we do things here. Editing individual articles to defy the manual of style isn't going to get you very far. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I can understand that you don't understand or don't want to understand the problems of Macedonia and the Macedonian people. Anyway we Macedonians survived for 3000 years under Greeks, Romans, Ottomans etc. and will survive for ever! 85.18.136.96 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, for the Olympic articles, we consistently use "FYR Macedonia". This is consistent with WP:Manual of Style (Macedonia-related articles), since the International Olympic Committee uses "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (e.g. per their website and per official reports (like this one from 1996). There is no anti-Macedonia bias involved here. If you can get the MOS changed, then that would be the only way to change the way we do things here. Editing individual articles to defy the manual of style isn't going to get you very far. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- The "sick greek nationalism" wasn't reffered to you. Anyway, you have edited an article about the Olympics in 2004 regarding Macedonia with the name FYR Macedonia. I sad that I hope you're not one of the greek antimacedonian propaganda-pushers, and I'm glad that you're not. You see, they are doing everything and everywhere to destroy my country. Wikipedia unfortunately is one of those places. There are much more greek wikipedia administrators than macedonian administrators so we can not do anything about that. 85.18.136.96 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, I insist on Goran Pandev because that article is on my watchlist. What other "sick greek nationalism" edits have I made? I have only ever spent a weekend vacation in Athens once, but that hardly makes me a propaganda-pusher. I live on the other side of the world. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- But you insist with the Macedonian people mostly. We Macedonians have enough problems with the sick greek nationalism -talk —Preceding comment was added at 18:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why do I insist on accuracy in Wikipedia? Is that a rhetorical question? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you insist with this? Anyway he was born in Macedonia and that's the most important —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.136.96 (talk) 18:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Request for Country data
Hi
Could you create a Country data for Union of South American Nations, South America (using Unasur flag) and Africa (using African Union flag), like Template:Country data Europe uses European Union flag? I tried but I didn't understood well how it works. Thanks — Guilherme (t/c) 23:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- They already exist. See Template:Country data Union of South American Nations and Template:Country data African Union. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 04:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't saw then. Anyway, no exist a Country data for Africa using the African Union flag and a Country data for South America using UNASUR flag. What do you think about create them? — Guilherme (t/c) 15:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just use {{flag|AU|name=Africa}} for
Africa and {{flag|UNASUR|name=South America}} for 
South America. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- But if I want that Africa points to Africa and South America to South America? — Guilherme (t/c) 17:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- But if I want that
- Just use {{flag|AU|name=Africa}} for
- Sorry, I didn't saw then. Anyway, no exist a Country data for Africa using the African Union flag and a Country data for South America using UNASUR flag. What do you think about create them? — Guilherme (t/c) 15:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Request for Country data New Caledonia
Can you add this flag Image:New Caledonia Sports Flag.gif to Template:Country data New Caledonia? It's used in the 2007 Pacific Games. See here: Flag of New Caledonia. Chanheigeorge (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, User:Dn9ahx claims he/she is the copyright holder of that image, of which I am skeptical. I'd like to affirm that it is not a fair-use or non-free image before putting it into the template, as other admins have removed flags under those circumstances (in other country data templates). We can only use free images in the flag template system. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. From this photo [1], the NCL delegation carries both the French flag and the new flag. So perhaps the French flag is still "official", but the new flag is also used "unofficially" to add some local identity. Chanheigeorge (talk) 22:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I'm sure that's the case, and it makes perfect sense to add it to the template—but only if we don't violate WP:Non-free content by doing so. Just some clarification is required. We had to change the
gamesvariant from Template:Country data Gotland for precisely this reason. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I'm sure that's the case, and it makes perfect sense to add it to the template—but only if we don't violate WP:Non-free content by doing so. Just some clarification is required. We had to change the
- Fair enough. From this photo [1], the NCL delegation carries both the French flag and the new flag. So perhaps the French flag is still "official", but the new flag is also used "unofficially" to add some local identity. Chanheigeorge (talk) 22:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] NATO flags and symbols
Hi,
Where does it say that the NATO flag and NATO/ISAF symbols are only to be used on pages of NATO and ISAF? I haven't seen any rules that say it can't be used on other NATO-related pages such as military engagements involving NATO or ISAF. - Realismadder (talk) 12:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Check the image page itself, at Image:Flag of NATO.svg. (Scroll down under the large image.) That image had to be removed from Commons, as it is non-free. Therefore, on each Wikipedia (en.wiki et. al.), it can only be used for specific articles that have a reasonable fair-use rationale, and those can be found on the image page. Also, per Wikipedia:Non-free content, there are restrictions on image location, such as mainspace articles only. As for the ISAF logo image, there is a deletion debate on Commons for that image, so it likely falls under the same restrictions as the NATO flag. Even if it doesn't, the logo should not be used as a flag substitute in infoboxes per WP:Manual of Style (flags). — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Croatia at Olympics before competing for Yugoslavia
This is a historical fact but let me remind you that for every socialist republic of the former SFRY there is listed see Yugoslavia throught the entire period.
Also for the soviet socialist republics within USSR.
Have those edits been referenced for each and every Olympic games? I do not see such reference.
Croatia had been a part of Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, see the title of the Emperor of Austria.
Also this http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/sportet.html article clearly reference the fact of Croats participating in the Austrian, Hungarian, Italian and even English teams.
Imbris (talk) 21:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's a fairly lame reference. It confuses ethnicity with participating teams, such as Paul Radmilovic, an ethic Croat born in the United Kingdom who competed for Great Britain at the Olympics. But it also makes a good point about Milan Neralić, whose medal is attributed to Austria. I certainly don't think we should use this website as a reference for the article, but I also agree that your edit is appropriate, given this information. It would be nice to find a comparable athlete as Neralić who competed for Hungary, or perhaps those table cells should only read "See Austria". — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Flag
Is Iit really much of a problem? I'll do it from now on, but I'm going to stop with Burkina today. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 00:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- and whoa, how quickly my memory fades, I forgot about your message shortly after I removed it. Sorry Andrwsc. :( I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 00:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Flags
I found very difficult to understand why there can be Template:SCO and not Template:VEC for Veneto. Kind regards. --Checco (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Because SCO is a standard country code (List of FIFA country codes) widely used by many people, and VEC is something you invented yourself. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 07:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. --Checco (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- No worries. Sorry if I came across heavy-handed; I didn't mean to. We have a consensus at WP:WikiProject Flag Template to stick with standard (ISO 3166-1 alpha-3, FIFA, IOC) three letter codes for "shortcut" templates like {{USA}} and {{ITA}}, because many people are familiar with those codes, but use the generic {{flag}} template for the other thousand or so flags that we have templates for. It is impossible to remember what to use when new "codes" are invented. Personally, I prefer to use {{flag}} for everything—I find it much easier to read wikicode with {{flag|Algeria}} instead of {{DZA}}, for example. Even some of the standard codes are obscure! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 07:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. --Checco (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I understand, but why do we use FIFA country codes: FIFA is simply a wolrd soccer organization! And, anyway, we have also templates about entities which don't have a FIFA country code, take for example Template:IOT. --Checco (talk) 07:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, there are tens of thousands of football-related pages on Wikipedia, and the WP:WikiProject Football folks like to use SCO. As for IOT, that is an ISO code, so that's why the template exists. To be honest, the latter is a perfect example of one of the obscure standard codes. I think it is clearer for editors to see
{{flag|British Indian Ocean Territory}}in an article instead of having to look up what IOT stands for, even though{{IOT}}is only 7 keystrokes. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 07:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] New flag templates
Hi. Can u delete this flags? US - Jimmy Slade (talk) 09:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Irony
Lighten up friend. I prodded that page because it was entirely empty, it didn;t say anything other than CHile competed at the 1956 olympics. You make out as if I don't greatly appreciate your work on the olympics which I greatly do. Whatever you think about geo stubs these will contain information and whether it takes 15 months to expand or 15 minutes them it is still a step that wikipedia has to take. I never once insulted your integrity as an editor and I find it kind of offensive that you think I don't think much of your work. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] infoboxes
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| Thank you for your terrific work with infoboxes. That work is a tremendous asset to Wikipedia. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 13:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
