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Contents 1 Incorporation request 2 List John Bowker as consultant? 3 Article name 4 Language template poll 5 opening statement of article 6 Access to ICT 7 Logo in Firefox 8 UNESCO logo composed of 3 parts

[edit] Incorporation request

could someone please incorporate this news item [1] into this article? :) Kingturtle 19:19 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

[edit] List John Bowker as consultant?

The fact that John Bowker is a consultant to UNESCO doesn't seem like a terribly important fact to list on the UNESCO page. UNESCO has many consultants. (Googling for "consultant to UNESCO" returns 607 results; searching for "consultant to UNESCO" and "bowker" returns 14.) GGano 21:16, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Regardless of your belief about the importance of this, Bowker is a consultant and thus belongs on a list of consultants. So Ill readd it. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Not every fact belongs in an encyclopedia, only relevant ones. The fact that one particular guy is a consultant to UNESCO is not really relevant to the UNESCO article, so it doesn't belong there. But, it's not particularly important enough to get into an edit war so I'll just leave it. GGano 14:49, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I am not terribly interested in reading a list of UNESCO consultants. Is there really something most unusual about John Bowker that distinguishes him from the other "ordinary" consultants?

[edit] Article name

Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions, the most common name should be used for the article title. I very much doubt that "United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization" is more common than simply "UNESCO". Any objections if the article is moved?—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 12:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

You should have kept reading for a rule more specific to this case. "Avoid the use of acronyms in page naming unless the term you are naming is almost exclusively known only by its acronym." Unlike laser, radar, and scuba, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization is certainly not only known by its acronym. Omnibus 21:02, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

But it is "almost exclusively known" by its acronym, which is what the guideline actually says. Jonathunder 21:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so! 10% of links to the page are spelled out... 90% isn't "almost exclusively" in my book... but maybe it is in others'. Omnibus 04:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. News stories routinely refer to "UNESCO" without explaining what the acronym stands for... just go to http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=UNESCO and you can see that almost no news stories in major news media expand the acronym. This is very similar to NASA, which is also at the non-acronym version, and also very similar to AIDS; perhaps not coincidentally, NASA and AIDS and UNESCO are all pronounced as words rather than spelled out as individual letters, and unlike "UN" or "WTO", there is no other "UNESCO" that could cause confusion or require disambiguation.

See also the "use common names section" of Wikipedia:Naming conventions: the most common name is indeed "UNESCO". We routinely use the most common name, thus for instance United Kingdom and not "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (which probably exists but only as a redirect to United Kingdom).

The article seems to have been at "UNESCO" for a while, and you changed it to the full version only today. Given that there is some difference of opinion, I would suggest that the best course of action would be to leave it there for now and request a name change discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves. -- Curps 22:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

There are also about 1700 incoming links from other Wikipedia articles, and the vast majority of them link to UNESCO or Unesco (more than 1500) and only a small fraction (maybe one tenth or less) link to expanded versions of the acronym ("Organization", "Organisation", etc). -- Curps 22:36, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

But one-tenth means that it isn't "almost exclusively" known by the acronym as the guideline says. I'm sure that the portions for laser or scuba would be less than one-hundredth. It's too bad that the guideline isn't more specific. Omnibus 04:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

===>My two cents This, like all other UN agencies, should have its longform name. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 17:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language template poll

A poll as to whether or not the language template should be included in this article is being conducted at Talk:United_Nations_Commission_on_Human_Rights#Poll Raul654 19:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] opening statement of article

needs to be neutalized. Please don't revert this edit unless you can show this first statement as fact. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Nations_Educational%2C_Scientific_and_Cultural_Organization&action=submit#Controversy_and_reform Twasmetrec 12:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you then please state here the questionable opening statement, with your reasons, and perhaps proposed alternative? Jens Nielsen 07:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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I've created a page on UNESCO Courier. Please review and help expand it. The magazine also may be noted in this article.

Downtownee 19:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Access to ICT

Can someone please fix the link to ICT in this article? It now points to the disambiguation page. Ottergoose 16:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)vbvbgh

[edit] Logo in Firefox

Hello all,

Are any other users of the Firefox browser having a hard time being able to see the UNESCO flag image? It loads fine when it is clicked on, however navigating to the article page usually has a blank space apparently; have tried disabling the firewall but the problem remains - this is Firefox 2.0.0.6. Thanks! -- D-Katana 08:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I've just tried it in Firefox and three four other browsers: same result. --Old Moonraker 10:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UNESCO logo composed of 3 parts

The use of the name and logo of UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, is subject to rules laid down by the governing bodies of the Organization.

The UNESCO logo block is composed of three parts: 1. the emblem - the temple - including the UNESCO acronym; 2. the complete name (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) in one or several languages; 3. a dotted line in a logarithmic progression. These components cannot be disassociated.

Consult: http://www.unesco.org/en/logo —Preceding unsigned comment added by C nooij (talk • contribs) 10:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed, by user Tibetibet --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

• Those "rules" look to have been designed with use of the logo to imply association with UNESCO in mind. From the Basic Rules section: "This rule must be respected when the UNESCO logo block is used by all its stakeholders and partners."

I'm not trying to say that Wikipedia should not use the UNESCO logo graphics in the standard form. I am saying that the above comment by C nooij (officious tone with some sort of vague threat undercurrent) was not helpful. Chill, dude.

85.225.254.185 (talk) 01:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

As we seem to have agreed to use the standard form of the logo, may I just note that the display of the organization's six languages is also regulated? Details here. This edit reverted accordingly. --Old Moonraker (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)( these things are totally wrongG!!)